12 hour, think outside the box.
I am so sorry that you all have to tease and ridicule
Maybe you should feel sorry for all that were abused and DF when they spoke out about it!
FOOLS HATE KNOWLEDGE
i am so sorry that you all have to tease and ridicule, when it is in our hearts to serve like christ did, but jesus, was ridiculed, he was young, i know a young anointed sister who gave this interesting illustration, jesus was a common name back then, and he was from an unpopular town, nazareth,, so how would you all feel if he came today and was called carlos from pueblo?, .
many people thought he was crazy, and he was ridiculed and hated, .
matthew 19:30 states, "but many that are first will be last and the last first.
12 hour, think outside the box.
I am so sorry that you all have to tease and ridicule
Maybe you should feel sorry for all that were abused and DF when they spoke out about it!
FOOLS HATE KNOWLEDGE
for those of you who may not be aware of who bobby is better know as "you know".
allow me to share some things about this man that may help to shed some light on his mindset as a jw.. one of the most important things i have found when dealing with "loyal" jw on the net is to find out thier status with in the org, esp if they are male- .
you see this organization is a "position" driven organization, esp for males and if they have no position within thier local congo - other than mike handler after being a jw for years then that means in most cases the male jw is considered a flunky- we have seen guys as young as 17 being appointed as ms-.
Hey 12 hour! Do you like Disco??? I suggest you check out 1975! It was a great year! Good thing the world didnt end! Oops!
Fools Hate Knowledge
bobby i hope you do not mind me dropping in like this.
first please bear with me my english is not good i am not born american.
i am student in teaching .
Jehovah God? That drives me nuts. Its like saying God God, or Jesus Jesus. We all now that God is God thats why we call him God.
the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.
one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.
in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.
I did not know the history of this organization. If I had known I would have not been converted.
YOU KNOW repsonds "Well, that's why the Society would rather you not know about those things"
YOU KNOW admits that the WT lies and witholds the truth! YOU KNOW admits that if people knew the real history of the WT they would never join! So my question to YOU KNOW is, YOU KNOW the 'truth' of the WT so then why in the hell are you still part of it??????
"...I've got to spread the love around. / You Know"
YOU ADMITS he has VD!
some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.
it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.
presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
"We measure real estate value in cash. As inflation reduces the spending power of dollars, apparent costs rise. In other words, $300,000 doesn't buy what it did a few years ago, therefore it costs more dollars to purchase what was a $300,000 home. Same property, same number of rooms, but as the value of the dollar declines with inflation more mini-dollars are needed for a purchase"http://realtytimes.com/rtnews/rtcpages/20020423_bubble.htm
No shit! Thats inflation. And yes, inflation is occuring at a cool 3%-once again not the hyperinflation you claim it to be. Yes homes values have doubled in the past couple of years-in certain areas, for example the Bay Area and the Silicon Valley. Has the value of the dollar decrease by 50%??? NO it hasnt! The prices have doubled do to supply and demand! Once again you get supply and demand confused with inflation. The dollar hasnt collapsed! People want to live in the Bay Area so they are willing to pay more money for the houses. Are they overpriced? I think they are. I wouldnt pay that kind of money for a house. But as they say with art, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The Value is what someone will pay for it.
"As the title of this weeks article indicates, there is a growing SYSTEMIC crisis. Systemic is the opposite of cyclic. A systemic crisis means that the entire financial system is in danger of collapse because of the intergration that makes up a system"
The second was premised upon the implications of the 1971 breakdown. He forecast, that, if the dominant powers resorted to a combination of increasingly rapacious, monetarist forms of austerity measures, the result would be, not a new cyclical crisis, but, rather, a systemic crisis, a "general breakdown crisis" of the global system. Since the October 1987 U.S. stock-market crisis, and the strategic, economic, financial, and monetary decisions of the 1989-1992 interval, the existing global financial-monetary system has become locked into the presently erupting series of seismic-like shocks expressing such a global systemic, or "general breakdown" crisis.
Check it out! I can find doom and gloom crap too! The difference is that I dont buy it! I wish this stupid font would change. Check out this nuts solution to the supposed "general breakdown" crisis,
During each of those campaigns, the proposed remedy was always the same: a fundamental reform of the planet's economic, financial, and monetary systems, emphasizing:
a) a return to the best features of the 1950s Bretton Woods system;
b) The general replacement of central banking by the kind of national banking which U.S. Treasury Secretary Hamilton attributed to the U.S. Federal Constitution's implications;
c) a just new world economic order as a new quality of partnership among sovereign nation-states;
d.) emphasis on both large scale development of basic economic infrastructure, adequate food-supplies, and fostering of growth of per-capita productivity through investment in scientific and technological progress.
You see point C, a new world order! Hah this guy is as big a nut as YOU KNOW!
"Thats not entirely accurate. Click here and get yourself educated. http://www.frbsf.org/education/activities/drecon/2001/0108.html"
Yes 10% is not the current rate. So what, I was pointing out the concept of money expansion. If the money expansion coexists with Asset expansion than there is no hyperinflatinon.
caused by an increase in available currency and credit beyond the proportion of available goods and services.
I dont know about YOU, but I sure dont have $100,000 laying around saying 'oh man, I wish there were more goods and services for me to buy, this stupid inflation thing, theres nothing for me to buy......"
Basicly, all YOU have done is take one quote from an article and you have used it to try to further back up your incredibly weak claim that the end is near. Why dont you Quote MONEY magazine, or KIPLENGERS? Your economics are wrong. Just because one nut says the economy is shits doesnt mean it is (sounds like you!). What you need to do is get some paint, get some plywood, paint "the end is near" on the plywood, and carry it around town proclaiming the "truth" with all the other nuts. Did you come up with the same economic facts in 1974 before the world ended in 1975?? Face it YOU KNOW, you belong to a depressing DOOM and GLOOM cult that has been preaching the end of the world (and getting it wrong-obviously) for the past 100 years. If you cant get 1975 right, what makes you think your getting anything else right???? 'It wasnt my fault! Demons told me it was 1975!"
on one of your posts you say the we operate with false assumptions.
it seems to me that one of your assumptions is false, to wit, the wt is god's organization.
again, somewhere you wrote that the jews were no longer god's people when jesus arrived.
I think Im going to change my log in name to 1975.
"You all are just jealous of You Know because he Knows things that you all dont know"
He is right. I dont know how to believe in obvious lies, get brainwashed, or write a 20 page thesis on nothing. I also dont understand doublethink. 12 hour, do you realise that YOU KNOW gets all his 'knowledge' from the Ministry of Information and Truth?
after all that we had drummed into us about not the cross, and particularly about not venerating the symbol itself, i have been wondering about this issue.. so, what are your views about wearing a cross around your neck ?
is it just a fashion accessory, or does it mean something to you ?.
inquiring minds would like to know
I have to agree with
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Edited by - crazy151drinker on 18 July 2002 12:19:41
looks like someone on this forum hates this word hope.
hope is a great thing to have for all christain.. it is one of the best things a true christain can have.. the bible gives us alot of hope.. lets use it in our everyday lives.
we have bible understanding threw research do we not?
Bleep
"They are Gods people declairing the good news"
Hmmm thats funny, revelations talks about how the locusts torture those who are not Gods people. How is that declairing good news? It also talks about the locusts causing so much pain that people will try to kill themselves but cannot! And you think thats declairing good news??? LOL (The Good News is about Gods Love-not we are better than you, join our cult or die). Please reread the passage concerning abbadon (ie the destroyer-yeah thats a good name for Christ LOL) and the locusts and common sense will tell you that Abbadon is not Christ and the locusts are not JW's even though JW's have caused many to attempt suicide (and sadly some have succeded). Revelations clearly states the Abbadon is the greek word for Destroyer, can you please tell me how you can possilby mistake Abbadon for Christ! Anyone?? I would find this quite facinating (oh please no watchtower junk, you dont see me creating my own stuff).
Edited by - crazy151drinker on 18 July 2002 11:49:44
we have a group of friends over right now, some are former jw and some have never been involved.
we are watching the news about the little girl death and the question has come up: .
why did god let this little child die like this?
Well im going out on a limb here but first of all God has a history of violence so he isnt exactly some Care Bear. I tend to think of an ant farm, we are his ants. He has lots of ants! Some die but there are always more ants! If all the ants die, he can get new ones! Hours upon hours of entertainment! Yes, allowing His only Son Jesus Christ to get cruxified kind of throws my whole theory in the trash, but some times it seems so true.....
Edited by - crazy151drinker on 17 July 2002 19:10:31
looks like someone on this forum hates this word hope.
hope is a great thing to have for all christain.. it is one of the best things a true christain can have.. the bible gives us alot of hope.. lets use it in our everyday lives.
we have bible understanding threw research do we not?
Torture Stake?
Im sorry Bleep but Satan hasnt gone to the Abyss yet. I see no locusts. I see no 1000 years of peace. No trumpets. No signs. Your a little early! But then again you were a little early in 1975 too~ :)