Always thought these droning loooooong prayers at the end of assemblies were wrong.
All the little kiddies who had sat through 8 hours just wanted to get off home and play!!!
I just wanted to get off home for a drink!!!!!
Shell
yes, i like to gaze around during prayers, especially big ones.
twice now i have seen the chairman or concluding speaker finish the song, approach the speaker stand, say "let's approach god in prayer," and at the last second pull out a index card size of paper with writing on it.
he kind of cups his hand over as he lays in on top of the song book.
Always thought these droning loooooong prayers at the end of assemblies were wrong.
All the little kiddies who had sat through 8 hours just wanted to get off home and play!!!
I just wanted to get off home for a drink!!!!!
Shell
i left the wtb&ts 24 years ago after being a full time pioneer for 15 years and have never looked back.
i have no family "in" and have moved very far away from the congro i left.
no one here knows i used to be in this cult.. i experienced the usual shunning from the members of the congro i went to and from surrounding congregations (the city i lived in was big and had several khs), but it didn't last long because i moved away shortly after the "big announcement".
I got my copy of coc on friday last week, and I agree I think its a very emotive read. Sort of because the way Ray has written the book, you relate, you know his experiences were real, the language, language which may be alien to any other reader than a dub or ex dub.
I admit I'm a bit of a 'flicker' and although am only about a quater of the way through, have flicked through to the read the letters towards the end of the book; Bro Vasquez and his wife's appeal against their df/ing. These were humble people.
My opinion (at this early stage of the book) it that Franz and Vasquez we shafted over by the borg big time. Silences for daring have any thought of thier own.
May be that why the exjw's on here get so upset and are so affected by this book. In our own way we have been chafted over by the borg. Whatever the cicumstances, whatever we were df/d for. We too were shafted when they took our families and brain washed them against thier own flesh and blood.
Shell
when i call my mother she says she can't talk to me because i am dfed.. i asked her to help me and my pregnant wife move and she said "i don't think i can do that"... whos not allowing her to do it?.
she always calls me if her car or her computer breaks.. she called me today because her computer broke.
so.... i turned the tables on her.
very well said hangin_on
Shell
it feels like being in the twilight zone right now!
what kind of choice is is when we are put in the position of choosing between loved ones and our freedom??
i am so angry right now, i feel like screaming in frustration.
Maddie, It stinks, I know, and so do an awful lot of others on this web site. God apparently made you with free will but just dare you excercise that free will and there'll be hell to pay!!! I feel so much for you guys who are on the periphary of the borg. The constant threat of losing family and loved ones, will always be there in your mind, and you know that there will be a price to pay if you take a step away from the religion. IMHO you are at the worst stage of fading, falling away what ever you would have it be called because the fear you have oflosing family coupled with the dread of meeting attendance and the realisation that actually this isn't the truth are both terrible things to live with. I think to a certain extent once you have made the descision to leave, and have decided that you will have to live with the consequences, your life does get easier. There are many of us on here that have lost family to this disgusting religion, and it hurts, it really does, but it does get easier to deal with once you have made the choice to be true to yourself. Thats my take on it anyhows. Hugs to all you guys on here feeling a sense of loss and abandonment. We can be friends, albeit at a distance, but firnds never the less ((((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))) Shell
just a question; i new a p bell fromt he midlands about 20 years ago; he'd prob be about 40 now.... could it be the same one??.
anyone know?.
shell (avin a nosey moment....
Just a question; I new a P bell fromt he midlands about 20 years ago; He'd prob be about 40 now.... Could it be the same one??
Anyone know?
Shell (avin a nosey moment...)
here are seven more covers to fool with.
between these and the extras from the other thread i should be able to make a fwc 9. do your best.... .
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HEATHEN: I see a pattern emerging
You got a probelm you'd like to discuss amongst your friends here on JWD?
Shell
there is clearly a caste system in the organization.
there is a pecking order.
certain classes of people did not associate with those not of the same ilk.
Yeah; although our cong was not really troubled by maybe 'racist related divisions' (for want of a better expression, there were deffinatley cliques.
The regular pioneers associated v closely with the more active and central elders and thier families. all one big happy family, that is unless you werent a reg pioneer of an elder.
I found being a mother to four younsters placed me pretty much out of any circle, I was'nt spiritual enought to wait until the paradise to have my children; there I didn't sacrifice enough time to the fs, I didnt have maybe as much materially as others, coz the kiddies cost so much, I didn's answer up at all the meeting coz I was either messing with the children, or WORSE!!, I hadn't prepared coz the only little bit of spare time I had was spent having a ten minute nap!
A hiding to nothing.... I Can add more, will later
SHELL
No comprendez luvvie.... I can see it!!! :-(
Any suggestions?
Shell; Flag of Bolton
for saturday morning bookstudy!!!!
thanks for checking on me though.
every meeting now i ask her "so what did you learn at the meeting" and i can tell she is getting tired of answering.
OOMPA!!!! Thats nasty.