Posts by neverendingjourney

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Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!

by hoser in

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that's the word according to my mil.

mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.

her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.

neverendingjourney

That's great news! My car loan is for 6 years!!! I end up saving a lot of money!

In the late 90s I followed the WT's recommendation and enrolled in a technical course of study. I took out some student loans and one of the options was a graduated repayment plan where the monthly payment kept getting bigger as time passed. I felt I was getting one over on them by agreeing to it since Armageddon would arrive before I finished paying my loan. Five years later I ended up rolling it into a student loan I had taken out to pay for a legit college education. Since it got consolidated into my college loans, I will probably end up paying three times the value of the loan by the time I'm done. They give out the worst advice when it comes to higher education and vocational training.

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Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!

by hoser in

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that's the word according to my mil.

mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.

her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.

neverendingjourney

In 1969 they said I would not graduate from high school, but I did and now I am retirement age.

In 1941 the Watchtower published the aptly-named children's book entitled "Children." The book admonished kids to forego thoughts of marrying in this system because the end was near, close enough to where it didn't make sense to burden themselves with marital responsibilities. For some years marriage was frowned upon and seen as a sign of spiritual weakness. It wasn't until Nathan Knorr's marriage in 1953 that this policy and outlook was reversed.

A 10 year old who received that book in 1941 would now be 83 years old. Hopefully they didn't follow the book's advice.

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Is Anthony Morris III gay?

by Calebs Airplane in

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why else would he constantly bring up "gay-inspired" clothing when speaking to such large audiences?.

nothing wrong with being gay.

but he should just come out of the closet already and stop all this stupidity... just saying.. .

neverendingjourney

Did a tight-pants epedimic break out in JW-land in the past decade? If so, I'm almost sorry I wasn't around to see that. I said "almost."

Seems like a pointless thing to get worked up about.

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My family has known I'm an apostate

by cognac in

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i found out that my husband has not only gone to the elders, but has been going to members of my family about me over a period of a few years.

this piece of news is just so depressing.

i've been wondering how my family knew i didn't go and thats why so many of them have becoming more and more distant.

neverendingjourney

It's complicated. I betrayed my best friend by turning him in to the elders. Twice. The second time resulted in his being disfellowshipped.

Thankfully he didn't hold it against me because he knew I was coming from a good place and that I was deeply conflicted about how to proceed. We've both been out of the JWs for a while now and our friendship is still strong 10+ years later.

I remember being completely conflicted about how to proceed. At the time I felt I was in a position of having to either betray God or my best friend. The indoctrination compelled me to behave in a way that I would never have acted otherwise. The few weeks leading up to when I finally turned him in were horrible. I think I lost something like 20 pounds in five weeks worrying myself sick over the situation.

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US Zone visit: disappointing, depressing, discouraging

by sir82 in

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i will have plenty of "snark" to post later on, but please indulge me while i get this out of my system..... suppose you are the leaders...yes, the leaders...there are only 7 of you...for the one true religion in all the universe.. jehovah the god of the whole universe speaks to you, you alone, out of 7 billion+ people on teh planet.. you have an opportunity, thanks to the advancements in technology, to speak to 750,000 of your followers "live", and another 750,000 or so within 24 hours.. 1.5 million people!

hanging on your every word!.

this is the first time in history you can simultaneously, or nearly simultaneously, address so many of your adherents.. what message are you going to present for this special occasion?.

neverendingjourney

It's interesting to take a step back and see when things really got off the rails. As far as I can tell, this general attitude developed in the early days of Rutherford's reign. He was in a power struggle and was fighting off massive defections. He chose to purge the ranks and increase the control the religion had over its members in an effort to solidify his hold on power.

By the time the GB was formed in the early 70s, it was composed exclusively of men who had served under Rutherford and had adopted his view. Most revealing is a quote from Crisis of Conscience where Ray Franz quotes from GB meetings where the prevailing thought was that "brothers couldn't be allowed to decide" on various issues lest it lead to a complete collapse of morality (or something like that, it's been a few years since I read it).

What you have today is a group of men who came up under the tutelage of a group of men who learned from Rutherford. The groudwork was laid nearly 100 years ago and Rutherford's choices continue to impact millions till this very day.

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Millerites, Jehovahs Witnesses and Purple Triangles

by Simon in

i came across this after posting another iq video to a different topic.

interesting how much the jehovahs witnesses are featured ... but it is because they are a millenial cult with failed rapture prophecies:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chug6f0tnfg.

neverendingjourney

For us Yanks, a different YouTube video along the same line. Long but worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_c-PdT0SsE

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I am JW.ORG

by LogCon in

famous quote from wuthering heights revised.. '... i am jw.org!

it's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than i am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.

so don't talk of our separation again: it is impracticable...'.

neverendingjourney

If I remembe correctly, aside from the pagan-origin line of reasoning, the Society criticized the cross on the grounds that it was an undue symbol of faith elevated to such a status as to constitute idolatry. The same reasoning would apply to the fish, which isn't a pagan symbol (at least I don't think it is).

From that perspective, I honestly don't see the difference in wearing a cross as a symbol of your faith versus a jw.org button.

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I am JW.ORG

by LogCon in

famous quote from wuthering heights revised.. '... i am jw.org!

it's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than i am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.

so don't talk of our separation again: it is impracticable...'.

neverendingjourney

Any JW capable of the most basic critical thinking would have a hard time justifying how a crucifix is idolatry but all the nonsense pictured above is not.

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a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

by alexandre in

a baptized girl from my former cong.

was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

neverendingjourney

Some of the most promiscous kids at my high school were witnesses.

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Service meeting video....what a non-event

by sir82 in

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at our service meeting we saw the video of a jw explaining his beliefs about 1914.. it was.....well, "underwhelming" does not do it justice.

what is below "underwhelming"?

"boringly tepid"?.

neverendingjourney

They get 7 times from Daniel 4:16

Maybe the "time, times and half a time" language "explains" the gap between 1914 and 1919 (when the the Bible Students were supposedly chosen by God). Like I said, it's been a while. I distinctly remembe studying the Revelation Grand Climax book and being unsatisfied by the explanation.

Edit: Not trying to hijack, but I found this in a copy of the old Revelation book:

How long did this respite for the seed of God’s woman last? Revelation 12:6 says 1,260 days. Revelation 12:14 calls the period a time, times, and half a time; in other words, three and a half times. In fact, both expressions stand for three and a half years, extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class.

Three giant leaps of logic here: (1) Times means exactly two times (2) three and a half times means three and a half years (3) This prophesied a random period of time between 1919 and 1922, a period of "refreshing recuperation and reorganization."