famous quote from wuthering heights revised.. '... i am jw.org!
it's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than i am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.
so don't talk of our separation again: it is impracticable...'.
If I remembe correctly, aside from the pagan-origin line of reasoning, the Society criticized the cross on the grounds that it was an undue symbol of faith elevated to such a status as to constitute idolatry. The same reasoning would apply to the fish, which isn't a pagan symbol (at least I don't think it is).
From that perspective, I honestly don't see the difference in wearing a cross as a symbol of your faith versus a jw.org button.
famous quote from wuthering heights revised.. '... i am jw.org!
it's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than i am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.
so don't talk of our separation again: it is impracticable...'.
Any JW capable of the most basic critical thinking would have a hard time justifying how a crucifix is idolatry but all the nonsense pictured above is not.
a baptized girl from my former cong.
was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.
she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!
Some of the most promiscous kids at my high school were witnesses.
at our service meeting we saw the video of a jw explaining his beliefs about 1914.. it was.....well, "underwhelming" does not do it justice.
what is below "underwhelming"?
"boringly tepid"?.
They get 7 times from Daniel 4:16
Maybe the "time, times and half a time" language "explains" the gap between 1914 and 1919 (when the the Bible Students were supposedly chosen by God). Like I said, it's been a while. I distinctly remembe studying the Revelation Grand Climax book and being unsatisfied by the explanation.
Edit: Not trying to hijack, but I found this in a copy of the old Revelation book:
How long did this respite for the seed of God’s woman last? Revelation 12:6 says 1,260 days. Revelation 12:14 calls the period a time, times, and half a time; in other words, three and a half times. In fact, both expressions stand for three and a half years, extending in the Northern Hemisphere from the spring of 1919 to the autumn of 1922. This was a period of refreshing recuperation and reorganization for the restored John class.
Three giant leaps of logic here: (1) Times means exactly two times (2) three and a half times means three and a half years (3) This prophesied a random period of time between 1919 and 1922, a period of "refreshing recuperation and reorganization."
at our service meeting we saw the video of a jw explaining his beliefs about 1914.. it was.....well, "underwhelming" does not do it justice.
what is below "underwhelming"?
"boringly tepid"?.
The whole thing is utter nonsense - but those 4 topics are the most nonsensical of all. And none of them were even hinted at.
It's been a while, but isn't part of the explanation that "a time, times and half a time" mentioned in the Bible means 3 1/2 times, but for some reason you double that and that leaves you with seven times? I seemingly remember a convenient interpretation of "times" to mean "2" when it could actually be any number from 2 to infinity, but the Society just simply said it meant "2." So time = 1, times = 2, half a time = 1/2, all of which added up to 3 1/2.
Does this ring a bell or has JW nonsene finally begun receding from memory?
grrrrrrrrrrrrr!.
check out website for dunedin, nzs newspaper www.odt.co.nz re the 9yr old that got baptised at the convention in dunedin this last weekend... can't you just hear everyone there gushing about it??.
as i said grrrrrrrrrrrrr .
So, which is it? You're mature enough at 13 to make the most important decision of your life, or you're not. If you were praised for making the right decision at 13, shouldn't you be trusted to make an informed decision 5 years more mature and wiser?
Dave Chappelle agrees:
i hear people saying it is not the same religion that i knew.
what is the major difference?.
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What is the major difference?
I haven't been involved with them in nearly ten years, but from what I can tell, it's more a shift in religious culture than actual doctrine. The doctrinal architecture is still there even if their eschatology is in shambles. But it seems the day of vehemently defending the faith and being doctrinal experts has come and gone. It's been replaced by a culture of docile obedience.
i knew some that were very happy for you and others, along with their families, that were envious of someone's advancement.. .
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In fact studies of elders were baptized and appointed after I got on the wheel.
At my old hall there was one alpha-elder who pretty much ran the show. He also had a lot of influence in neighboring congregations since they had resulted from splits and the elders there had once been under his influence. I don't remember the exact count, but at one point a very large percentage of elders both in his congregation and in neighboring ones were men whom had studied with this alpha-elder. A lot of sisters with UBMs wanted nothing more than to have their husbands study with this elder in hopes that one day their unbelieving mates would turn into congregation elders.
i knew some that were very happy for you and others, along with their families, that were envious of someone's advancement.. .
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I fell in love with the religion when I was 15. I got baptized when I was 16 and graduated a year early so I could get a head start on pioneering. I became I regular pioneer when I was 17.
Around that time a young man in the hall who was two or three years older than me decided he wanted to pioneer, too. He worked a full-time job and I barely saw him out in service. We would agree to meet early in the morning for service and he wouldn't show up. I had to go to his house to get him out of bed a few times. When the service year was at an end, I had to bust it to get my 1,000 hours in. Lo and behold somehow this other guy had already finished his time for the year a month ahead of time. I also knew that he liked to go partying with other young JWs and hit up the nightclubs. He often missed meetings...you get the picture.
After that first year was up he was appointed ministerial servant and I was passed over. Apparently I was too young. It took everything I had not to walk out of the kingdom hall when the announcement was made. Within a year or two he had been reproved for having sex with a married woman.
Thankfully, by that point I had seen too many inconsistencies in the religion and my zeal had begun to wane. I still stuck around for a few more years, but l'm glad I didn't get appointed. It would have made it harder to fade.
That guy is a clown without any makeup on.
For my loved one's sake, I hope they put him front and center, shine a bright spotlight on him. Any witness who retains even the slightest ability to think critically will have to wonder what the hell he's doing following that guy.
