Crumpet said spicey foods and beans just make me fart a lot.
you have been warned.
One girlfriend I knew used to fart and point to the nearest exit door or window directing them out there
It never seemed to work real well "cause they usually hit my nose instead.
i am not saying that all elders are heartless but i do believe the wt rules lead them in that direction.. after i was df i continued to go to all the meetings.
at one of the meetings an elder who was on the commitee that gave me the boot was giving my 10year old son counsel on his student talk.
he said that his talk was good and that if he needs any help with his next talk he would be happy to help him.
What an idiot. Disfellowshipped people suddenly lose their skills of parenting when the elders kick them out.
More than that Synerg I was a dead man While DF I would not survive Harmageddon and if I died before H I would not get a ressurrection
i am not saying that all elders are heartless but i do believe the wt rules lead them in that direction.. after i was df i continued to go to all the meetings.
at one of the meetings an elder who was on the commitee that gave me the boot was giving my 10year old son counsel on his student talk.
he said that his talk was good and that if he needs any help with his next talk he would be happy to help him.
Virgochick sad He had to know that remark was likely to get back to you
I was there when he said it at the meeting being shunned
Virgochick. It was over 10 years ago my son has now completed his masters in phsychology and is throughly cult proof. He even considering doing his thesis on mind controll with reference to the WT Chose not too 'cause of his mother with whom he has an amiable relationship She is a manic depressive mainly depressive needs to live in a world she understands has some controll over Her security lies with the WT and it would not be kind to rattle her cage
i am not saying that all elders are heartless but i do believe the wt rules lead them in that direction.. after i was df i continued to go to all the meetings.
at one of the meetings an elder who was on the commitee that gave me the boot was giving my 10year old son counsel on his student talk.
he said that his talk was good and that if he needs any help with his next talk he would be happy to help him.
I am not saying that all Elders are heartless but I do believe the WT rules lead them in that direction.
After I was DF I continued to go to all the meetings. At one of the meetings an Elder who was on the commitee that gave me the boot was giving my 10year old son counsel on his student talk. He said that his talk was good and that if he needs any help with his next talk he would be happy to help him. Sitting in the hall I thought that was nice of him untill I heard his counsel for the next student which ended with " You don't need help with your talks you have a father" On the way home my son said " but your my dad" I said I know son the man was just being ignorant.
would like to know if anyone has found differences in comparing the 2 books besides the article of older men that ray franz brought out.
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desertflower.
Yeh One sister got DF She divorced and remarried. Based on information in the Aid book Her divorce was not acceptable. She had caught her ex screwing the dog. According to the Aid book it was not grounds for divorce since according to the truth of the day you could not become one flesh with an animal. Dropped in the insight books after they learned what pornea meant That light just gets brighter and brighter
after i was df and seriously questioning my faith in the org ( won't call it the truth) i gave a copy of coc to an elder i have known since i was a young man.
he read it found it disturbing and said that he didn't realize problems that he found at his level of involvement went so high.
i then gave him a copy of "in search of christian freedom" he never read it said that he didn't want to question his faith in the brothers.
Was an Elder once said People are treated like meat and disfellowshiped without any heart involved
That was my experience My 14 year old daughter was raped did not tell us went to the doctor when she realized she was pregnant and then made arrangements with the help of one of her friends for an abortion. My wife and I found out about this the night before the appointment with the abortion clinic. She was trying to borrow money from a neighbour for it. I reasoned with her I remember her words Dad I can't have this baby. I felt for her A woman is raped she feels dirty tries to wash away the feelings and here was a potential permanent reminder of her humiliation growing inside her.My wife son and I went with her to the clinic. My wife who had been at odds with ( the usual teenage parent squables) her daughter was now fully supportive knowing full well what she was to go through having had two abortions herself before becoming a witness. As a family we had never been so close. Then the committee meeting. 4 Elders baying for blood could not have given a dam what my family and I had gone through. There actions in DF me and giving my wife public reproof drove a wedge between us.
PS You have my respect Was an Elder once
after i was df and seriously questioning my faith in the org ( won't call it the truth) i gave a copy of coc to an elder i have known since i was a young man.
he read it found it disturbing and said that he didn't realize problems that he found at his level of involvement went so high.
i then gave him a copy of "in search of christian freedom" he never read it said that he didn't want to question his faith in the brothers.
After I was DF and seriously questioning my faith in the Org ( won't call it the truth) I gave a copy of COC to an elder I have known since I was a young man. He read it found it disturbing and said that he didn't realize problems that he found at his level of involvement went so high. I then gave him a copy of "In search of christian freedom" He never read it said that he didn't want to question his faith in the brothers. This man has two degrees so he is no dummy. Many of those on this forum were elders You would of come across things not known by the publishers that seriously challenged your faith in the Org How did you deal with it? I would imagine that many would have been very harsh on any brother that raised questions that challenged their faith in the Org The very questions they themselves were suppressing
there once was a man who wanted to purchase a talking parrot.
he went to a pet store, but was told by the pet shop owner that they only had one parrot that fit his criteria but he probably would not want to purchase this particular parrot because it had been previously owned by one of jehovah's witnesses.
the man said he was not worried, looked the parrot over carefully,purchased it and took it home.
There once was a man who wanted to purchase a talking parrot. He went to a pet store, but was told by the pet shop owner that they only had one parrot that fit his criteria but he probably would not want to purchase this particular parrot because it had been previously owned by one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The man said he was not worried, looked the parrot over carefully,purchased it and took it home. This was on a Monday. On Tuesday evening about 7:00 p.m. the parrot began to squawk loudly, "Time to get ready for the Book Study, Time to get ready. At 7:25, He repeated "Time to leave for the Book Study, your going to be late, Time to go." The Book Study is very important" You must go right now" Though this irritated the man, he realized the pet shop owner had warned him about who had previously owned the parrot. On Thursday night the parrot repeated the same thing only substituting Theocratic Ministry School and Service meeting and warning again how important it was to go and never willfully miss these meetings The man began to get angry at the parrot. On Saturday morning about 7:00 a.m. the parrot began again to squawk "Time to get ready for door to door work. Time to get ready. You need to get an early start. Start your time by stopping at some laundromats. Time to get up. You need to be at the Kingdom Hall at 9:00 sharp." This began to seriously irritate the man, and he almost lost his temper with the parrot but finally managed to control his anger. On Sunday morning the parrot began the same routine as he did on Saturday morning. The man got so irritated he threw his pillow at the bird's cage,finally quieting him for a while. About 2:00 in the afternoon, the parrot began his speech about going to the Kingdom Hall for the Public talk and the Watchtower Study. This was the last straw. The man walked calmly to the parrot's cage, took him outand smashed him against the wall. As the parrot hit the floor a very weak but distinct voice came from him saying "No Blood! No Blood!"
not so long ago i met one of the elders that sat on the commitee that dfed me 10 or so years ago.
it was at the local shopping centre.
he did not recognize me at first so we where chatting away untill i helped him remember who i was.
Not so long ago I met one of the Elders that sat on the commitee that DFed me 10 or so years ago. It was at the local shopping centre. He did not recognize me at first so we where chatting away untill I helped him remember who I was. He then mumbled something about Satan and took off.
Ps To be fair years ago I did rattle their cage a little was interviewed on national TV and also when they became princes I made and sent them all a gold crown with their name and title Prince............on the front with dates all around the crown like 1914,1925,1975 etc
i know we were sold a lie in believing god was only dealing with the wt and to obey them is to obey god.
what puzzels me is that in rejecting the wt so many also reject their belief in god.
surely they believed that god existed as witnesses.
I know we were sold a lie in believing God was only dealing with the WT and to obey them is to obey God. What puzzels me is that in rejecting the WT so many also reject their belief in God. Surely they believed that God existed as witnesses.
