How can you get blamed for what to consenting and capable adults do.
Its not your fault that it happened maybe your brother in law put the blame on you to take the heat of himself.
Helen
i have been df'd for around 4 years and have not got my back up about the org until this year.
only this last year have i been looking around for answers and started realising there is a foundation for my reasons of not going back.
at first i was happy that it wasn't because i was making excuses for not going back but bad things were happening outside of the people i know across the org.. what pissed me off the most (and the reason i found this site) is because i got the blame for my brother in-law having sex in my house with someone other than his wife (my sister) because i am not witness and thus have low standards.. i'll try to keep this short: i have 2 sisters, one brother and 2 parents (fancy that) both remarried however.
How can you get blamed for what to consenting and capable adults do.
Its not your fault that it happened maybe your brother in law put the blame on you to take the heat of himself.
Helen
jw's often have big parties or "gatherings" to celebrate wedding anniversaries, esp.
for the big milestones (20th, 50th anniversary etc).. the process of these parties almost exactly mimic a typical birthday celebration: the couple of honour sit up the front, various people give speeches, show "honour" to the happy couple, there is a meal and drinks, usually an anniversary cake.. exactly the same as a birthday party.. so why is it ok to celebrate an anniversary of a wedding but not the annoversary of a birth??
when it's usually the "wedding" which sooner or later results in a birth??
I could never understand why wedding anniversaries where deemed more important than your birth.
It was never justified why JW don't celebrarte this.
Yes it is the children who miss out.
And the adults who get to indulge.
Helen
i find it interesting reading posts from ex-witnesses or those that are slipping away and yet the terminology is still brain-washed into us.
i mean, i've managed to stop using the terms myself.
sometimes i might catch myself using the term "the truth" or "brother" or "sister", but i quickly correct myself.. the fact is for me, as much as i agree with a lot of their values and beliefs, those people were not my "brothers and sisters" nor was the organization "the truth".
When i talk to my mum about the JW it takes so much of my conscience mind not to say 'the truth' i replace it with the religion.
Even if i saw JW down the street i think oh thers 'brother...... or sister.....' so hard to deprogram things like that. But also when i was younger it was also common to call older brothers and sisters aunty and uncle.
Helen
hey all.
mr. flipper.
when in the witnesses, the fanciful thought is put forward that the main thing important in a marriage is the "threefold cord" having god in your marriage.
We were young and he was my real second b/f we just had things in common and he had a great understanding of me and my quirky ways.
He showed me the light and it was my final transition of leaving the JWs.
we were married for 4 years we had our ups and downs i guess i was insecure about a lot of things and we separated and divorced.
We both had new partners for a few years and then so reason within months of our relationships ending we got talking and realised that we had grown up and we started being with each other more we just clicked and we both had wanted our family to be together again.
So cut a long story short we got back together both stronger and happier people and had another child together and now i couldn't be more in love with him now then what i was all those years ago.
He just gets me and i get him.
Helen
i can easily live without my mobile telephone - never use it at the moment and i rarely do.. i couldn't live without my pc because of all the things i can do on it including (when i have internet) jwd .
Could live without
not much i love things too much, but the most they way people treat each other there is just no need for all the violence in the world.
Can't livewithout
My hubby, kids, music and the pc with net.
Helen
I think i was always an open minded JW.
But the difference now is that my eyes are more open now to reflect on how actually closed minded the JW really are.
I gess i got all my questions answered years later when i was able to see the light.
Helen
from http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/136861/1.ashx : .
variable angina.. its when the arteries in your chest randomly all squeeze up just to piss you off.. the doctor said that this isn't heart disease and it wasn't caused by high cholestoral (mine is right on the money) and it shouldn't happen again- this was a fluke.. the doctor was really kind and nice and said that with the amount of pain i felt there's no way i should have maintained consciousness, much less been able to drive 25 minutes and then go to sleep.. then we ended up talking about genital piercings and body modification in general (my xray was lol.
) he was really kind and said pretty much, let's hope it never happens again.. .
RR im glad you are ok.
Take care of yourself.
Helen
just curious, how many of you have to hide the fact that you post here from family?
i'm especially thinking of those with spouses who are in, while they themselves either never were, faded, dfed/daed, etc but if you are a child hiding it from parents, that applies too.
if you are posting secretly, how secretive do you have to be?
I post openly. Yes i am female, 31, live in Australia and my name is Helen
Though i do keep my familys privacy not give out their name
Its only me who is verbal about the JW.
I really don't care what else can they do!
Helen
i'm not afraid at all.
i'd like to experience a full life, and do the things i want to do before i die, but death itself just doesn't frighten me.. i was unconscious for several hours last night as i slept, and experiencing nothing feels absoluely fine.
before i was born, i went through the same thing- nothing (for several billion years or more infact).
Not of death but how it comes about.
I would like to live a full life and be able to accomplish the things i want but also being able to say goodbye.
I would like it not to be painful or slow.
But when your time is up its up.
I have already used up one life (should have died as a baby thanks to the miricale of drs) so i guess thats why i try to life each day to the fullest.
Helen
okay, so thursday was my actual birthday - but i understand that i should be celebrating the whole week long .
see what i missed all those years!.
so, happy birthday to me !
Happy Birthday!