Posts by humbled

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I Went To My Brother’s Memorial Service at the Kingdom Hall

by minimus in

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i have to say that the talk was very good.

instead of just repeating a jw manual , the speaker actually spoke about my brother!

there were a few scriptures with the jw hope but 80 % of the talk was actually about the life of my brother.

humbled

There are a lot of nice people in the religion but they all have been dumbed down.

...and numbed.

That is a kind of triumph to have an actual remembrance of your brother, Min. It matters for the person to be remembered.

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North American History - Red George MacDonnell

by cofty in

greetings to the colonies .

i have come across this individual in the course of some local history research - back in the late 18th c his aunt and her husband owned the estate where i now live and his parents settled nearby.

he gets credit for a victory at ogdensberg in the war of 1812.. is 'red george macdonnell known to the average american/canadian or is he an obscure figure?

It isn’t US custom to study the heroes of other countries—especially those who hand us our own ass in a sling. MacDonnell didn’t exactly overstep his commander’s orders it seems. He indulged in creative interpretation of carrying them out.

The wiki says he was not well recognized for this action. A bias against Mcdonnell may have been afoot as one source said the credit sometimes was assumed by a Lt.Col. Thomas Pearson. Since MacDonnell was born in Newfoundland l wondered if Pearson was born in the motherland. If so , bias against Mcdonnell may have been afoot if the credit was held back in favor of Pearson.

I favor native-born MacDonnell as the initiating the action. Certainly colonial boys both sides of the border were noted for innovative tactics, more likely to buck authority and seize the moment ahead of orders (for better and worse) But politics, snobbery can play out in the military and not give credit where due.

Interesting bit of history. Somebody kicked US ass back then.

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Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead

by Whynot in

paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.

native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.

so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.

humbled

But relating it on the forum just invites the typical
you're mentally imbalanced
on drugs
influenced by JW land
chemically altered or driven
hysteria has taken you away
and don't forget you're schizophrenic
In the end, if a person doesn't know you, it's difficult to believe that something really happened other than the above reasons.
schizophrenic
In the end, if a person doesn't know you, it's difficult to believe that something really happened other than the above reasons.

The “two witness rule” strikes again!

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"Demons" Living In My Brothers Gym Equipment

by pale.emperor in

spoke to my younger brother dan yesterday (he da'd about 6 months ago).

he was telling me that he got a visit from our older brother the day before.

our older brother was raised a jw but never committed, lives a full-on "worldly" life - smokes, binge drinks, hangs out with non-jws, but he's been studying for about 6 years would you believe?.

humbled

How come the demons dont live in my older brothers cigarettes and porn collection?
Isn't it funny how demons dont live in banknotes and coins that non-JWs might put into the contribution box?

👻👺 hahaha

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Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead

by Whynot in

paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.

native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.

so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.

humbled

Whynot,

I cannot respond to that particular question. I don’t live in or near the Irish/welsh legacy that formed the essence of my family. My early life was Catholic and did tend accept supernatural events and occasional prayers to saints. Obviously not connected to JWs.

Besides that —the JW literature talks about Satan all the time but, unless memory fails me the narratives of the WT follow prefer to keep the paranormal in a more theoretical place. l cannot recall once when the WT writers maintained that an active JWs dealt with demons.

It’s a tricky topic—not closely associated with scientific metering. Although these hauntings that that occur science explains: My sister moved out of s home after an incident in a closed room—but what she likely suffered from is a well known phenomenon: sleep paralysis . For her it was a ghost hound .to this day. Also..Isn’t it acknowledged by science that sponanteous healings have occurred ?

In my earlier Catholic years the mystical and fantastic interventions of God or the saints was definitely the way l was given to explain matters. Now l see that the incidence of coincidences can be powerful l have to look at how l viewed everything that happened. I might, I could have superimposed a narrative without considering other natural factors surrounding these moments.

But the power of the mind —maybe it does have some power.

That said, l wonder at the several moments of powerful sequential coincidences in my life experience .And l listen to the stories of strange events that others experience-an old German born pioneer sister had wild stories— and wonder. Is it a sense we have lost like a sense of smell? I just let it go now.

But the JW culture l believe keeps a lid on this topic no matter what cultural views you bring to it.

edit: Pale Emperor reminds us that the demons are alive and well in JW tradition . They live in used clothing and other second hand objects.

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Even elders don’t know their beliefs

by Addison0998 in

i had a deep conversation with my elder father today about the bible.

first i talked to him about luke 16:19-31. the one where jesus makes this crazy illustration regarding the afterlife.

of course he had to look it up on the watchtower library to be spoon fed his beliefs.

humbled

Yes, it's often this way. One eventually gets the idea that the beliefs don't really even matter.

https://youtu.be/qWS2NVX6VP0

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Borg nearly apologies child abuse victims in Finland

by Festus in

the attached picture is historical.

the man on left is ari hakkarainen, representative of jw in finland.

the woman in middle is reporter susanna päivärinta and the lady at right is josefina pakomaa who was abused by family friend - a jw - when she was 11. a vicious apostate today.

humbled

That guy, Ari, is probably on the way out...l definitely want to watch what happens to him.

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Posters You Miss

by minimus in

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anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.

i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.

humbled

I just read his profile, Simon. Really fine.

l feel a twinge if guilt when l think of how changes we go through can separate us. Tec for instance, Tammy—I left the fundamentalist mindset and l she left the board after that Epic Thread on Theism and Suffering.

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