The struggle in Austria’s schools with Islam
humbled
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Austria Begins Closing Mosques and Deporting Imams
by cofty inaustria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.
in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.
seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.
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Mad max, star trek or super heros?
by Jayk insome say or future, is going to be like the movie mad max.
other say it will be like star trek.
but if the comic books are correct we're about to see the first generation of super heros and i'm convince one is donald trump;).
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humbled
Trump?
Mad Max , yeah.
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Austria Begins Closing Mosques and Deporting Imams
by cofty inaustria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.
in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.
seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.
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humbled
I sympathize with your sensibilities, slimboyfat. Your observations on the normal Turkish people are not to be argued with. But the problem when one is unfamiliar with the history of Islam’s evolution over these hundreds of years we are ignorant of the fears moderate progressive Muslims have of the salafists and Wahabis.
These radical and often violent interpretations of Islam are infiltrating the former safe havens of western countries. The pressures these radical views have built over the decades is a worry beyond the young educated Muslims (they frequently wish to leave Islam) who are threatened by a strict interpretation of sharia . It has raised concerns in that the assimilation that would have been healthy has not happened as well as it needed to to prevent insularity and separation to grow.
The outside funding of mosques and the suppliers of radical clerics have increased the unease between Muslim communities and the surrounding populations. Coupled with these issues are the decades in which authorities failed to address the ignorant and twisted subset of Pakistani rape grooming gangs preying primarily upon poor non-Muslim girls. ..There has finally been outrage and the realization that laws must tighten up to maintain the host countries’ ability to maintain customersry standards of safety for all.
This past week there were several videos posted with interviews and discussions with U.K. Muslims and town halls where there were frank divisions between Muslims themselves concerning their religion.
Not least is the need to protect Muslims citizens who are struggling under the oppressive form of Islam in their host countries, within their own families.
If there were no physical danger maybe we could bear another odd religion. But this is much worse than the Watchtower. The problems have been growing.
Law is better than violence. The idea is not to close all mosques. The intolerance should only be for the violent extreme Islam. There really are differences, SBF.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-09/double-lives:-the-secret-ex-muslim-network-in-australia/9811340?pfmredir=sm
This single article is an eye-opener
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My son graduated last Friday
by Captain Schmideo2 ini have talked about him before on this forum.
he is now a graduate from mit!.
it was a lovely weekend.. i got to meet some of the friends he has made in the past four years, and some of their families.. they were very nice, decent, friendly, and enjoyable people.
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humbled
Your son got the right idea snd stayed with it. Congratulations to you too.
Parents can definitely be the wind beneath the wings.
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Austria Begins Closing Mosques and Deporting Imams
by cofty inaustria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.
in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.
seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.
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humbled
Slimboyfat—do you think that all systems of belief in Islam are the same?
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Make America Great Again Hats...would you wear one?
by minimus ini like trump but i would be reticent wearing that hat.🤠.
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humbled
MAGA?
Most slogans are like Chinese fortune cookies.
When you first hear them they make every kind of sense, then —in a flash —they don’t make any sense at all.
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UK justice..
by zeb intommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.
yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.
his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?
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humbled
Diogenesister—Vulnerable children in care every where seem to fall into bad and worse treatment . A child that leaves its parent’s sight is at risk much less a child cut loose and marked “public ward”. Abuse is often overlooked
Authorities, media, agencies make reports— who can trust them? Agendas, self preservation greed may color their stories. The critical and breakthrough report on the grooming gangs (tell me if I am wrong) came through that journalist Andrew Norfolk after four years of deep digging. He conclusions were damning of the authorities and Pakistani Muslim custom(the culture that has a high number of abusive actions toward women and little girls.)
What do you think of this article by a Rotherham grooming gang survivor? Her account comments on:
the distinction between paedophile rings and the Muslim grooming gangs
attacks against all Muslims that she finds detrimental to fighting extremism
the actions authorities have said they are taking to help but she says they are not
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/rotherham-grooming-gang-sexual-abuse-muslim-islamist-racism-white-girls-religious-extremism-a8261831.html%3famp
edit: Realizing the different ways sexual abuse is reported Ivan help or hinder discussion. Sex rings and grooming gangs not the same can skew our understanding of this topic. It is specific: Viciously cruel Muslim grooming gangs.
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I Think It’s Great That ExJWs Have Gotten Politically Involved!
by minimus inremember when we could never say an opinion regarding politics?
it’s refreshing to see that we can tell everyone what our political stances are and have no fear of shunning .
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humbled
Bump
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Austria Begins Closing Mosques and Deporting Imams
by cofty inaustria, a member of the eu since 1995, is a country of 8.8 million people with a muslim population of around 600,000 mostly turkish immigrants.
in 2015 it passed an 'islam law' prohibiting foreign funding of religious groups and creating a duty for muslim organisations to have 'a positive fundamental view towards state and society'.. many mosques in austria have continued to receive money from turkish muslim organisations so the new right-wing government have decided to enforce the law.
seven mosques have been identified for closure and 60 imams are to be either deported or refused visas.
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humbled
Have you read the article on young Muslims in Australia who want out of Islam, SBF? The poster no-zombie has it out. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5955816503902208/problem-being-wanting-ex-muslinThe relevant feature of radical Islam is the violent coercive nature of it. The negative impact on host nations and on the oppressive conditions it forces upon its own members subverts the excercise of freedoms in a country. I am convinced that there should be thresholds of assimilation for citizens to enjoy benefits of residency. At least do no harm to the others. The ordinary rule of law could create and maintain order by simply legislating criteria for conduct that had been customary for long time residents but must be legally described for others
Thats how I see the matter.
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The problem of being (or wanting be to) an Ex-Muslin
by no-zombie ini just finished reading a long article about the young people wanting to break free of islam in australia and the problems they face in leaving their high control religion.
the similarities between us and them is quite clear, as is how they woke up.
it's worth a read.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-09/double-lives:-the-secret-ex-muslim-network-in-australia/9811340.
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humbled
Bump this.