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  New ExJW here for the first time.

  by WideAwake7 in

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  i am here for the first time ...but have enjoyed reading others experiences that i feel i can relate too.

  i used to be an elder for more than 20 years .

  i have successfully faded with my wife and children.

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  humbled

  Well, hello, WideAwake7.

  Others may know what to expect--but the scenario you describe for this wedding is nothing I've dealt with-

  Good work on your family fade!
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  My Relief

  by Smart in

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  what a massive relief!

  thank god i have just found this site the other day!

  i don't know where to begin!

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  humbled

  As for your identity--People here are respectful of your privacy. If you have nothing to lose as far as the JWs are concerned-- let 'er rip! But I find that though I have nobody in the Org. of my family, sometimes I converse on a thread that covers sensitive matters and then I have wished I had anonymity. Just my thoughts.

  But this forum addresses issues of persons touched by the JW Org. You should be here.

  Share carefully, thoughtfully, for your own sake. But welcome, smart. Welcome.

  Maeve--whose Grandma Beatrice (nee Jones) was half Welsh
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  The Witness beliefs remind me of the Nazis and ISIS

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  the nazi regime hated jews, gays, jws and other minorities.

  so they solved the 'problem' by exterminating them.

  the current isis group hates jews and christians and beheads those it considers 'enemies' and 'infidels'.

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  Would a JW kill if God demanded it?

  The WT literature claims that God will do whatever he wants and it is alright if he has a change of his mind.

  ---They say it was fine for God to tell Abraham to kill his own son.

  And Abraham was exemplary for trying to do it.
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  Morning Witness - Sowing the Seeds

  by Frazzled UBM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i walked past a couple of young witnesses on the way to dropping my son off this morning and they were still there at the station when i came back to catch the train.

  seeing them made me feel sad and think about all the stories of regret here on jwn so i figured what the hell i'll tell them.

  so i approached them and asked how old they were.

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  humbled

  I remember the two times when persons responded with simple gestures in my door-to-door work that made me question in a general way what I was doing. It troubled me to have people respond with an aversion so unmistakable and clear to my presence as a bearer of the "Good News". It did make me wonder what their experience had been.

  It never hurts to chip away at the wall, FUBM.
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  What is LOVE?

  by new hope and happiness in

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  humbled

  I think it is both what Londo said and what you said: If you know what hurts you,then you do not want another to feel that same pain. So I think love is the desire to mitigate the pain of living and share the joy.

  Now, are we talking about romantic love and having children? this topic could swarm....and I hope it does.

  Love is wonderful.
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  Latest stage

  by thedog1 in

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  i've posted on and off here over the past year, but not much recently.

  anyone who read my previous posts will know that i started learning all sorts of surprising things about jehovah's witnesses about a year or so ago, well, surprising to me anyway.

  i feel very sad now as it is getting harder and harder to go to meetings.

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  humbled

  The part of your post that struck me as saddest is not being able to talk to your wife.

  The irony of "the truth that makes you free" is that you can not freely speak. You cannot free her with the truth about the "Truth".

  I hope you can soon. I knew people like her, women mostly, who seemed to be sickened by the burden that was not "light".
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  Shootings in multiple locations in Canada's capital today - Wed Oct 22/14

  by Heaven in

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  one soldier is shot at war memorial.

  multiple shooters suspected.

  national post has live updates:.

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  humbled

  I am so with you on that, Simon.

  How not to sucked into their vicious cycle of hate and paranoia? Nothing open. Nothing free.

  But it is hard when you see,dead, that young soldier on the ground.
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  Despicable crazy people

  by jgnat in

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  there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.

  i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.

  the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.

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  can you explain the difference to me?
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  Despicable crazy people

  by jgnat in

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  there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.

  i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.

  the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.

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  humbled

  Luhe,

  The mental illness of an entire community comes about through the enforcement of social practices. Of all people, ex-JWs should know this without having any other expert testimony.

  Shunning that is required by that community has varied effects that this forum has documented for years. The "two witness rule" has been shown to protect the sexual predators and effectively "honor kills" the victims. The elevation of a small group of men as the ultimate arbiters of our spiritual life results in the destruction of our ability to reason and act with any authenticity. Fear =mental illness

  Where female genital mutilation is practiced--this is an enforced social practice that reuires a kind of group complicity to support it. Is it healthy just because everyone does it? Fear forces everyone in the community to go along with it even if they think it is wrong. This creates a sick society.

  It is only recently that some of the richest oil countries have come into the modern era. These lands and peoples are largely Muslim-right? If we listen to some of the voices of Muslim people (women especially) we hear them say that some of the practices are very much rooted in old tribal social practice--some of the very disturbing practices we read of in the OT. Bloody, mysogynistic, patriarchal, exclusive. Fear=mental illness

  It has been pointed out by other posters in these thread on Islam that the problem with Islam is that you cannot leave it without being killed. Yet in the places where human rights have an established value, Muslims who are faithful and informed live with happily with non-muslims.

  It looks to me that Islam has only recently come forward from the Old Testament grounds. I do not need to repeat the views we on this board have of this period of human history: these social practices that may have been common for that time and place produce negative values on human lives and human rights--mental illness-- in the communities we want today.
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  Despicable crazy people

  by jgnat in

  1. social
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  there are some mental illnesses which come with the potential for extreme violence.

  i'm not talking the sociopath here who kills without remorse, but those mentally ill people while in the throes of their delusions who are driven to kill.

  the outcomes can be horrific.. on december 6, 1989, a lone gunman gunned down fourteen women at a montreal college.

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  humbled

  The example of the Oklahoma fellow Nolen doesn't work as an example of the devoutly religious cutting off heads of un-believers. He was arrested before for assaulting a policeman for not having proper lights on his car, arrested later for cocaine use and intent to sell. converted to islam in prison. He read the quran there? who knows. He is said to have hated white people and been fascinated with beheadings in the news. Probably mental.

  All the rest as in that link to the woman stoned to death--yes religiously mentally ill and uninformed--Christianity was like that for centuries too--the rack and burning at the stake and the murder of christian sects. Took some brave souls to go against that tide.

  Bartolame de las Casas, you brought him up yourself, Simon--went against the tide. And Columbus was a Christian, too. He went with the haters.

  Education and humanity can overthrow the darkness... Communities can be the places we learn to be sick.(edited: We have to make them where you can get well. too.)

  checking out for now, good night.