Absolutely, press charges! See if you can track down the video (if it exists) and, either way, contact the local newspaper. I'm sure they'd be quite interested in this post-holiday reflection on the season's events.
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UPDATE!: THEY ALL ADMITTED EGGING US -Elders now know, heads are rolling!!
by Lady Liberty inoh.... how the saga goes on!!
i swear we could write a novel about our life exiting the watchtower!!
ok..many of you read what happened..our house was egged and so was my sisters car that was parked here, and "frosty" was attacked!!
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Its Time To Post!
by lurker inhello all: i have been lurking around this site for over two years.
due to a recent post of someone claiming to be an elder (which has been removed) i have been motivated to post.
i have been around this site for well over two years and have read most of your posts carefully.
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J-ex-W
lurker----- Welcome. You've warmed my heart. Seriously.
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SCAN OF WT ARTICLE ON WIVES.....
by Mary insome of you asked for a scan of the february 15, 2007 wt study on wives being in subjection.
i forgot to mention, the one paragraph stresses that not only are you a second class citizen in the marriage, but women are also to "obey" the numbnuts in the congregation, even if you've got a higher iq:.
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J-ex-W
Ya know, what kills me is that this article will only reaffirm to my JW ex-husband and three sons how wrong I was to leave that extremely abusive marriage. It will just make it all the harder to try to re-establish any relationship with my boys.
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SCAN OF WT ARTICLE ON WIVES.....
by Mary insome of you asked for a scan of the february 15, 2007 wt study on wives being in subjection.
i forgot to mention, the one paragraph stresses that not only are you a second class citizen in the marriage, but women are also to "obey" the numbnuts in the congregation, even if you've got a higher iq:.
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looking_glass -------- You described my ex-parents-in-law to a "T" ! Now I feel like I have to ask you where you're from/ who it was. I'm sure there's others out there...it's just unreal to hear it out of someone else's mouth like this! PM me if you like....
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Are Civil Marriges Acceptable?
by hopelesslystained inmy sister has a sister in law who has been with her partner for over 15 yrs and they have recently decided to make their union legal by getting married in a civil court.
now they wish to become active in the local congregation.
they have been told that they are not recognized as being married by the elders until they have been married by an elder.
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J-ex-W
Maybe it's a wedding re-do so all the family can attend? Maybe the family didn't attent the first wedding? Or maybe they want a renewal of vows to symbolize starting from scratch? I've known people in the world to do this kind of thing to please their religious families or just to please themselves, symbolic only to themselves. It sounds like a renewing their vows kind of thing to me.
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Are Civil Marriges Acceptable?
by hopelesslystained inmy sister has a sister in law who has been with her partner for over 15 yrs and they have recently decided to make their union legal by getting married in a civil court.
now they wish to become active in the local congregation.
they have been told that they are not recognized as being married by the elders until they have been married by an elder.
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J-ex-W
I think there's a misunderstanding here. Any marriage that is legal in the law of the land you live in is acceptable (civil union included).
But if they were wanting to be married by an elder (which is OPTIONAL), the elders are saying that they need to first basically 'show good faith' by straightening up their immoral track record of living together through living separately for a period of time and following all the other JW rules until after the wedding takes place.
A JW friend of mine told me how it was for her and her husband 'coming into the truth.' They had been living together and began studying, and both wanted to make their lives right with Jehovah, so this is what the elders advised them to do. [so they did it]
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Not talking about JW stuff has the opposite effect - regression phase
by truthseeker ini decided to take the advice of some of you here when i wrote about my situation.. i am married, but my wife is a die hard witness.
despite me showing her mountains of evidence and her actually accepting it, she is regressing back into jw think.. this has happened since i stopped mentioning anything anti-jw.. now she thinks that my problems with jw's were just a phase because i am not bringing up the issue anymore.. i really want to leave this religion, but i can't do that without losing her.. many here i know are trapped and some are still serving as elders.
i don't know how you do it, but i guess routine is routine.
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...Do you think you could, maybe, continue not 'bringing it up' (not ruffle feathers when there's no immediate need), but do respond to the subject when it comes up on its own? Make a point to make a stand or make your thought on it known as a situation arises? --I'm not in your situation, so I don't know what would or would not be feasible. But I'm thinking at least this way she will know that your mindset is still the same--you just don't feel a need to follow her around the house with it all the time.
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Is it wrong to be proud of achievements?
by free2beme ini don't want to have this come across as bragging, but i have to explain this to ask this question.
okay, where i work is a call center and i do sales, along with customer service.
for the last five years, out of 2500 representatives online nationally, i have been number one in sales for all months and years.
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Free2beme-------- You are doing nothing wrong. The bottom line here...IS the bottom line. The company recognizes that the $20,000/ year you (rightly) want to hang onto COULD be going into THEIR pocket. Over the last five years, you've earned $100,000 more than they would generally expect/ want a sales rep. to get. It doesn't matter to them that you are good at it and happy. It matters to them whether YOU are cost effective for THEM. Right now they see you as being not cost effective for them.
You may wind up having to decide what to do to either preserve your current status or to take proactive or pre-emptive steps to create a new status, before they impose a change ON you. [Like...even if it seems ridiculous, removing the trophies to not 'stand out' as much and to draw less fire/ attention to your money-'sucking' (from their standpoint, i.e.). Like I said, you are doing nothing wrong...but your status quo may be in peril. Be on the lookout for ways to resolve this situation, 'cause it doesn't sound like it's going to go away on it's own.
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Is it wrong to be proud of achievements?
by free2beme ini don't want to have this come across as bragging, but i have to explain this to ask this question.
okay, where i work is a call center and i do sales, along with customer service.
for the last five years, out of 2500 representatives online nationally, i have been number one in sales for all months and years.
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sorry---double post
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Lyman Swingle (GB) told me what would bring down the Organization!
by new boy init was about 15 years ago.......... i was at a one day special event in woodburn or.
i was talking to lyman swingle about how the society could save some money.
it was a crazy idea ( to crazy to relate here)...............anyway he laughed and said to me.. "brother..........we have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was god's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......so...i said "so the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......he said "yea..... i guess you could say that!
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J-ex-W
Well, if the money is the barometer--"no money, no approval"--then shouldn't the fact that they are getting HIT with the lawsuits taking their money be aclue to them about Jehovah's approval?