Posts by Eliveleth

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WINGS NEEDS A HUG - let's show some JWD LOVE

by AWAKE&WATCHING in

if any of you have read her posts you know that she is going through a rough patch.

group hug, whaddya say??

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i have been lurking here since last fall.. i had done a 2 year bible study and finally sort of mentally lost it ( study nights, clean house, constant worrying).. i was looking for a reason to quit and told my study teacher ( an elder and wife) that i would not dedicate myself to an organization , so they could forget about me being baptised.

no one speaks to me now even though i was not baptized.

they said i "knew enough".

Eliveleth

Hi Tracyeee,

Welcome! I lurked a long time before I finally posted to. The first time is the hardest.

There are lots of wonderful people here. I think we are all unique in our thinking. I

have not found anyone who believes exactly like I do. I think that is true of any group.

I laugh when I think that I used to think I was in total agreement with other JWs. Looking

back I can see that I only expressed the opinions that agreed and held the others inside.

Hope we get a chance to hear your story.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Watchtower Comments THE GENERATION CHANGE Featuring LEOLAIA

by V in

Eliveleth

Absolutely one of the best explanations of the "end times" prophecies in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and Revelation.

You have outdone yourself Leolaia!!! I also appreciate that you explained the scholar's terms you used for us laymen.

Thank you so much for this. And V for posting it.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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how lousy will your weekend weather be?

by chickpea in

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friends

sadly, we have already lost a 100 year old white pine ( missed the outbuilding by less than a meter!

) and the tarp on the portable garage is in shreds.... we are in a total whiteout and the power has gone out once already for 4 hours..... last night we bottled 10 gallons of water since we depend on a well for water.and no power means no heat or pump!.

spring blizzard has to be my least favourite oxymoron >>>>>>>>>>>>.

Eliveleth

We are expecting 87 degrees tomorrow and very similar for Sunday. Sorry!! hee hee

Sunny California. Finally!!!!

Love and hugs,

Velta

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My Introduction

by bgurl81 in

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friends

i've been lurking on this website for quite some time, but haven't quite gotten the strength to post until now.

for obvious reasons, i cannot reveal my identity.

although my "family" nows that i am no longer a witness and celebrates holidays, they still have "hope" for me.

Eliveleth

Welcome, bgurl,Awakened and Ruth,

bgurl,

My heart feels your pain in the treatment you have received. To be rejected by people whom you have loved, who you thought loved you. It is so hard to find this reality in the organization. I find it hard to believe that when you try so hard, when you need them the most, that you are rejected, but I know that it is true. So many have gone through this and it seems to be predictable about how you will be treated if you are a single mother. I have seen it and heard it so many times.

The God that the Watchtower portrays, I have come to know is not the God that I experience every day. I do see how many who have been treated so badly by the organization that claims they are God's exclusive organization can turn away from God. I understand your feelings about organized religion also. We belonged to 3 different churches after we left the WT and found them to be similarly structured. The churches are all the same. I believe that God wants to be worshipped personally and not through religion. Since I invited Jesus into my life and depend on Him to guide me, my life has been happier and more peaceful. If He is our Father then we do not have to go to a place where there are hundreds of people to find Him. He is as close as a prayer. We do not have to have rituals and formal songs and long prayers to reach Him. We can talk to Him as we would a friend.

I see God as a part of the universe and in everything that He created. I believe that many things in the Bible has been misinterpreted. Some of the things that are in there I do not understand. But I know that God loves us and wants the best for us.

No matter what you believe, I hope that you and your family will remain united in love. Do things that bring you together, whatever that may be. Both you and your husband may have to compromise in this, but it is worth it.

I am praying that you find your way.

Awakened
said: When my elders asked me where will I go (the typical question), I responded that I didn't know, but I was going to find out. "What if you don't find the truth?" they asked, obviously appalled... I simply replied, that I will enjoy the journey.

We were asked that question too by the elders that disfellowshipped us. The question is not WHERE will be go, it is WHO will we go to. The answer is Jesus. John 14:6 I do not think that the "truth" is in any religion, but only in Him.

bgurl said:
I made the decision that organized religion is not for me. Then I started doing more research and now I have questions as to whether or not "God" (as I have come to know him as) really exists and if the bible is even accurate. My instincts are telling very loudly, "NO!" This all happened after I read the book, "The Secret"

My husband and I found out that organized religion was not for us either. The God Jehovah of the Watchtower is not the God that we have found. God is too big to be confined to one religion. He is the creator of the universe and loves all his creatures.

I am so glad you all found this site. You will be challenged. I hope you will keep an open mind and prove all things for yourselves.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Bizarre Foods

by Layla33 in

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friends

have any of you seen the show, "bizarre foods with andrew zimmern"?

for some reason i have become a huge fan of this show and i am always interested in what kind of things people all over the world eat and how much of it i would actually even think of eating.. what is the strangest thing you have ever eaten?

and what was your response when you ate it?.

Eliveleth

I have eaten rattlesnake, raw sea urchin, sea cucumbers, limpets, snails (escargot). We regularly eat menudo which is cow stomach and beef feet.

Acorns, cattail pollen, pine pollen and needles. For a while, I was into wild foods.

I have eaten a lot of wild herbs and poisoned my family with a kind of mushroom (Jack-o-lantern) once.

We all survived but did a lot of vomiting. hee hee Well, the chickens were eating them. The doctor explained that chickens have a different digestive

system than humans. Well, when you are young you do stupid things. I certainly learned that lesson.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Told hubby I don't believe its the truth...

by cognac in

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friends

he didn't even argue with me, ok.... it's just, i didn't even realize things myself until i actually said it outloud to him... i didn't realize the depth of how painful certain things they do are.... it's like, my heart just turned warm and dropped to the pit of my stomach... i feel awful, all over again... .

Eliveleth

Cognac, Dear,

I hope that your hubby sees the truth too. It is wonderful when you are both out together.

I will be praying for you both.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Proof that WT literature is not needed...

by The Last Nephilim in

i have recently come to fully appreciate what is stated at 2timothy 3:16, 17 (nwt).

it clearly declares that nothing is needed outside of the bible in order for a person be be "fully competent" and "completely equipped" for "every good work".

how can anyone, especially the wts, claim that the bible alone is not enough after reading these scriptures?

Eliveleth

TLN,

You could be right. I never thought about it that way. There are so many

things in the Bible that are open to interpretation. No one can say for sure

what they mean. I believe that the moral principles written in the Bible are

good, but a lot of the scriptures can mean different things. The men who

wrote them were very different from one another and from different backgrounds.

They certainly faced a different reality then those of us living today.

Thanks for sharing this thought.

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Proof that WT literature is not needed...

by The Last Nephilim in

i have recently come to fully appreciate what is stated at 2timothy 3:16, 17 (nwt).

it clearly declares that nothing is needed outside of the bible in order for a person be be "fully competent" and "completely equipped" for "every good work".

how can anyone, especially the wts, claim that the bible alone is not enough after reading these scriptures?

Eliveleth

How do you understand this scripture? Jeremiah 31:31-34. It is speaking to the nation

of Israel, but why wouldn't it apply to all believers?

31 "The time is coming," declares the LORD,
"when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.

32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to [ a ] them, [ b ] "
declares the LORD.

33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time," declares the LORD.
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.

34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the LORD.
"For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."

Love and hugs,

Velta

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Just an introduction

by ataloa in

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friends

i have been a lurker for a few months.

my story is not uncommon, just the usual "skinned and thrown about like sheep without a shepherd".

the many different viewpoints have helped me sort things out in my own mind and gone a long way toward the healing of my heart.. just wanted to introduce myself and express my appreciation for this site.. ataloa.

Eliveleth

ataloa,

Welcome, dear one,

You will find a lot of different beliefs and attitudes here. I think you will

be able to learn from each one. I hear you about the "being knocked about

and skinned" by the WT. This was one of the things we observed just before

we exited.

I hope you will find what you are looking for here. We are so happy to

have you.

Gramma Velta