ok, this probably applies to most faith systems that believe in any sort of afterlife, but i would like to know what sort of explanation the jw's would come up with for this little problem, you know, after armageddon on earthly paradise.
sorry if i sound dumb, but it's been nagging at me for a few weeks and have to ask.. so, what if a young married jw couple are living their life, waiting for the big a, knowing they will be together in the earthly paradise, then very sadly one of them dies.
from what i know, if a jw dies, that's it.
I have been gone a while, but the thought process was the currently married couple would be together and the resurrected spouse would not be able to marry (and I suppose following that reasoning would not have that desire) and just be happy that former spouse made it to paradise.
Sadly, my father was my mom's one and only love and his death made the JW resurrection teaching appealing. She secretly hoped they would be together as man and wife again. Unrequited love = slave to a cult teaching.
when i first met my wife and on that so important first date i was 21 years old and sadly broke, she was an 18 year old au pair.
any way i treated her to mcdonald's but she had to pay for the meal.
now over 20 years later and still together, i realize how lucky i was she didn't say on that first date " if you can't afford to pay "our" mcdonald's meal f...off" .
When I was in the dating pool, over 6 years ago, I would agree to meet for coffee or a drink for a first date and I went with the intention of paying for whatever I ordered. If the man offered to pay, I certainly let him. I only went to dinner if we had an enjoyable time at the coffee date. If the man asked me to dinner, I assumed he would pay for it (although, again I was willing to pay for my own dinner if I got the indication the man thought he was paying ahead for sex). Flowers on a first date was a bit much for me as an adult...maybe because the dubby boys never bothered with such things when I was a teen in dub-world.
In response to DJS--when my current boyfriend and I started to date (and we continue to do this) we alternated who paid for dates. I don't mind paying as I am a modern woman, and good or bad, I make more money than he does. I walk to the beat of my own drum and the dating tropes that exist are so tiresome. I do enjoy when a man holds open the door or opens the car door for me. I find courtesy men sexy. I have girlfriends who have a list of rules for whomever they will date--always pay for the dates, flowers & candy, have to drive a certain car, etc (and a string of men who line up to be their obedient love slaves). To each his own.
i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.
does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?
it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.
My boyfriend used Marlene Winell and there is a therapist who was a former JW , Bonnie Zieman. She wrote a book, Exiting the JW Cult, A Healing Handbook.
i decided i wanted to try to find my original user name on this site, and for some reason my memory decided to start working for a bit.
i finally found it, and back then i went by the name of irish rose.
i had picked that name because of my irish family history, and roses are my favorite flower.
I love how positive you are with your life experiences. Thank you for sharing.
i've been researching the wt and the un involvement.
when i was still in and i first seen the un letter online, my cognitive dissonance kicked and i told myself it'll be a fake.
an apostate lie.. and seeing as no jw i've spoken to has ever heard of it, and flatly deny any involvement "no, they wouldn't do that", i decided to do a little "personal study" of my own.
I am not defending the dubs, but on Reddit someone posted a link to Morris' supposed Facebook page and a post about this very subject. The post had a link to jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower where they appear to refute this. Just curious how it compares to your research (I am on my phone and it is challenging to do comparisons at the moment).
hoping this is the right section..... my story so far,,,.
hello everyone, i have been reading a lot on what most jws would say apostate websites, but i have been asking myself, how much of this s true and considering a lot of these are run by ex jw elders, bethalites and one who was with the gb at one stage, overseers and the like.
i was an unbaptized publisher many years ago but never got to the point of baptism as i fell into sin, that pretty much ended my attending meetings again.
It is heartbreaking to realize the religion you devoted your life to is a facade and that cherished beliefs are false. It takes time to come to terms with the reality of JWs. People have to find their own destination whether it is agnostic/atheist, another religion, or just being a spiritual person (this means different things to different people).
Why sacrifice your family on the JW altar of falsehood? Truly if there is a god (and I don't know that there is), would that type of sacrifice make a loving god happy?
You are on a journey and you should research and explore. Read books on many subjects related to religion for and against. Open your mind to the possibility that this life is all the gift we have and we should make the most of it. Life apart from religion can be rich, loving, fulfilling. It is what you make of it and you don't need an old book (Bible, Koran, etc) to be your guidebook. You don't need to attend a Kingdom Hall or Church for your life to have meaning. You may want those things and if that is the case, there are religions that are less harmful than JWs.
Another important consideration--what does your partner say? Sounds like she has no use for the JWs. She is right about it being misogynistic and add to that I am sure she would not want her children exposed to the lack of love for children through their nonexistent child abuse policies and blood doctrine.
Just remember you are not alone. Pioneers into the truth about the "Truth" are on this forum and other websites--they paved the way for us to look behind the curtain to see the man who made himself a wizard. We all can empathize with your pain because we have been in your shoes to one degree or another. Some are still in pain and bitter, some have found the resources they needed to adapt to a happy, adjusted life on the outside. We can share our thoughts, suggestions, experiences, love or lack of love for bible/religion, but at the end of the day you have to decide what is best for you and your family. What is right for me may not be right for you.
Just breathe, relax and take your time. Armageddon is not right around the corner.
i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.
my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.
i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.
Sent you a PM.
"it was so beautiful, we are truly blessed!
now, they also plaster these affirmations all over social media, "this is the best life", “so blessed”, “best convention”.. why the gushing?
have you ever heard anyone say, “mmmm it was ok”?
When I was in, it always bothered me that I couldn't remember much about the "spiritual" food we received and I frankly never once went back over the useless notes I took (snooze fest!). I could tell you in detail what my friends wore, what we talked about, etc. I felt like I must not be spiritual enough and would beat myself up over that feeling, but I would definitely parrot the overused line "best convention ever."
So glad I am not shackled to that silliness anymore.
but they don't forgive because they still shun people.
who they feel are not worthy of forgivenes.
today, an old jw friend came to visit a member of my family who is still active.
i saw them leave together to run errands.
when they left, she didn't say hi and barely looked at me.. after taking care of my cores around the house, i noticed that the sister had forgot to turn off the head lights of her car.
