Posts by Doltologist

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Doltologist

D4G

My point is, a single book will not do it.

Some of us don't need a book at all. We just 'know' that there is no god. The idea is just so preposterous.

For some, 1,000 books will not be enough. They want to believe in god and that's the end of it.

The bulk of the people are somewhere in the middle. Some people need a range of books to be convinced. Some just need the right book.

Which ever camp you are in people, ffs, get on, read, accept that god doesn't exist. and lets get this farcical episode in Man's history out of the way so that we can move on.

In the years to come, future Man is going to look back on this part of Man's history and say, "They believed in what? A sky wizard that knew all, heard all and saw all! WHY?"

It's embarrassing.

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Proof - of what?

by Doltologist in

a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.

being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.

the first was called "was life created?

Doltologist

Telemetry11

Clearly there are no assumed mechanisms in my argument.

Clearly there are assumed mechanism(s) in your argument. You quote a probability. That probability is based on the creation of a protein and given that the protein is assembled in some way, shape or form, a mechanism must be involved, even if it is randomness.

Anyone can Google and cut and paste without understanding. Obviously you are one such person.

If your stats are correct, then life cannot have evolved.

If life didn't evolve, then, the sky wizard did it.

It is obvious that the sky wizard doesn't exist.

Therefore, the stats quoted by you are incorrect and a mechanism exists where the stas are totally different and allow for the evolution of life within the known time frames.

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Doltologist

D4G

The God Delusion. I read it in 2006, and it provided a good primer for at least helping me understand what atheism really is.

Atheism isn't a belief system. It is simply and merely a response to an assertion that god exists.

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Doltologist

D4G

The problem with that is common sense is a heuristic, or rule of thumb. It varies from person to person relative to what part of the world they live in, their upbringing, etc. No sense is truly "common".

I would have thought that a sky wizard that knows all, see all and hears all was outside of the realms of common sense, wouldn't you?

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Doltologist

Millie210

I'd like to address that question if I may.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

Doltologist

Try common bleedin' sense. Much underrated IMHO.

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The JOYS of being an EX-JW

by nicolaou in

add to the list and let's see the weekend out on a positive note!

1. sunday mornings.

alarm not set, cuddles with the mrs, tunes in the bedroom, coffee, bacon, another lazy coffee in the garden .

Doltologist

Nicolaou

Oh and of course; tattoos, drugs and hookers! How could I forget?

If that's what you want, then so be it but that means having to go back to the jovies.

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Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT a Cult......so they say.

by Tenacious in

trying to develop a good strategy for relatives still partially indoctrinated by this despicable inhumane cult.

i researched their own material and i found some good info on how they don't mind control anyone.

the following unedited information was sourced from their february 15, 1994 watchtower p. 5-7. i've highlighted some sentences that we all know are lies and a distortion of the reality of their community:.

Doltologist

Oh, CULT. Thought that you typed something else.

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The WTBTS "almost" admits the truth.....

by DATA-DOG in

during the wt session, the org admits that the actions of eldubs can cause an eventual shortage of "qualified " brothers, and it has.

they speak of a lack of teaching as the cause.

in reality, it's the legalism and control issues within the org itself that have caused a shortage of men who are willing to reach out.

Doltologist

DisirousOfChange

Like any nearly any other business...........it's not WHAT you know.........

It's not what you know, it's not who you know, it's what you know about who you know.

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Do we have a "spiritual need"?

by LexIsFree in

so this is only my second post but its about something that has been on my mind for awhile now.

have any of you ever felt the need to pray or speak to a higher power?

do any of you beleive that we were created or have evolved with a "spiritual need"?

Doltologist

LexisFree

Maybe that's what I am experiencing. Although I am out, I'm still mentally in that "box" religion puts us in.

Religion didn't put you in a box. You did or you allowed it to happen to you. Accept that and start from there and move forward.

If your car has a flat battery - a pump is of no use.