Well.....I guess I better get back to Jehoober now...thanks for the insightfull warning Zico!
It is amazing how we know more about their "new light" than they do!
i'm a fading dub, but still active, and still in contact with other jws.
a pioneer jw came up to me yesterday, and invited me over to his place for dinner tonight.
i told him i couldn't come as i had night school.
Well.....I guess I better get back to Jehoober now...thanks for the insightfull warning Zico!
It is amazing how we know more about their "new light" than they do!
as a jw i always had a fascination for revelation 20, particularly the incarceration and release of satan after the 1000 years.
as a youngster i imagined him locked up but on display, rather like hannibal lechter.
i can't remember what the watchtower spin was on this, but i assumed that this was all to do with god showing that mankind is still wicked, even without satan around, ie sin will still be here without satan?.
My mind doesn't go as deep as yours does as far as understanding the "true meaning" behind those scriptures....but, as a youngster in the "truth" I was worried about having survivied the big A....and the having to die because I fall for Satan after his release. In my young mind, he would get me to slip up with something like making out with a Brad Pitt look alike....or willfully disobeying my parents in the new world (Going on a fantastic Elephant riding expidition while I was supposed to be grooming my very own pet lion.) I knew Satan would be very trickey as to his schemes....and since he knows each of our weaknesses, that is what he would focus on for each of us.
The result (which I feel is the society's purpose for teaching about this) is I felt I had to work HARD at being nearly "perfect" in this system...as practice. I was one that believed it all....and it would pain me with guilt when I even swore. (I would PRAY for hours...throwing my young childhood burdens on Jehovah)
my story is simple really.. sorry its kida long.
mother was dfd in 1975, during this time we were free to celebrate all holidays.
during this time were were livng overseas, where my grandparents were missionaries.
Welcome luv.....I am so sorry that you had to deal with all that abuse growing up, and then pretty much are still emotionally being abused by having to pay a price for living a real life. It is such a horrible,unloving, hypocritical religion.
I am glad that you are out and hopefully happy. This board has been helping me for a few months now, and I feel stronger and stronger. Glad to have you.
i would ask you to keep pam in your prayers.
she contacted me yesterday she is a 10 year jw having doubts.
you all know how hard it is to unravel a taken over mind....once we start to see how we were under mind control -it is a long hard road.
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((PAM))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))She will be in my thoughts and prayers!!!!
i have research the subject throughly and would be willing to share with those who have an interest.. concerned elder.
I would be interested in seeing it. Is it something you could fax to one of us...then it could be scanned to be available to everyone?
i am shipping out on thursday for home.
i have been away from my home and family since august 1, this year.
my brother, (ex-dub) is hosting a dinner for me tomorrow, at his house.
They have got alot of nerve.....don't they? Let us know when you need bail! LOL!
first christmas tree, just put it up!
its a real one, put a lot of lights on it.. .
the witnesses are working in our area, so i am sure its just a mater of time (no more fadding at this point).. .
That is really great! It's so nice that you are doing all this together. I have a little bit of advice for you two. Take a slice off the bottom of the tree stump and paint a "first x-mas together" or something like it on there. Then, drill a little hole in it si it can hang on future trees.... and you will always have a piece of your first tree to remind you in years to come. (Of couse, after you're done with it, unless you happened to save the slice they usually take off it when you get it)
I remember my "first time" The tree was SOOOOOOOO UGLY!! I was very out of practice. I had some colored blinking lights....but they blinked in groups, and it made no sense....then I put PURPLE garland around it, and some cheap glass balls. Now....I gotta say, maybe that tree didn't look pagan, but it did look gaudy!
This year, I am really happy cause my g-parents found a box of x-mas stuff we had when I was a kid. I thought my mom had trashed it all...but there was still some in their attic....so I feel like I have gotten back a little peice of my childhood.
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/11/16/bashkircannibal.shtml.
woman gets 11 years for cooking boyfriend and feeding him to guestscreated: 16.11.2006 13:29 msk (gmt +3), updated: 14:20 msk.
a court in the russian internal republic of bashkortostan has passed an 11-year sentence to a woman who killed her boyfriend with an axe and then cooked him in a variety of dishes which she fed to her guests at a new year party.. .
It reminds me of one of my favorite movies..."Fried Green Tomatoes".....EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
my friend's ex-husband was killed instantly in a car accident on sunday.
my daughter actually probably knew him better in recent years than i did, as she would accompany their daughter tori to his house on his weekends for four-wheeling, fishing, etc.
i have never been to a viewing before.
I can totally relate. I went to a funeral for a young man my boyfriend at the time went to school with. I had never met him or his family, yet I was a huge mess, overcome with grief. It was a bit embarrasing since it didn't seem like I had the "right" to react that way...but like unique1 said...It's empathy, and that is really a great quality. I think we were taught not to have that because then we would actually feel for all the babies Jehovah was going to kill in armeggedon (among all others).
I am sorry you are feeling so sad....((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
as much as you may be mad at the society, the brothers or family, do you think it is ethical to post their letters or e-mails?.
i kind of feel that these things were written with the intent of confidentiality and it is kind of unethical.
(please, no disrespect to those who don't agree).. any thoughts?.
I don't think it is much different than telling someone about a conversation. I don't think ethics really apply to this situation. I understand if some people feel uncomfortable with reading those things....maybe it makes some feel intrusive, however, in my case...I wouldn't have been able to get the advise I did with mine without posting it here.
Sorry if anyone is offended.