Posts by OnTheWayOut

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Unky Punky just wanted ...

by punkofnice in

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...to drop by and say, 'ayup, mates', to you all, my old friends.. i am so totally over the jobo thing i have surprised myself.. if anyone asks, 'what do you think of the jobos?

' my reply would be, 'i don't think of them.'.

all my rage, anger and sadness have dissipated over time.

Unky Punky, I can often go days or even weeks sometimes without posting here. I will always have more of a connection to ex-JW's because I have so many JW's still in my life- my wife, her family, my mother.

But otherwise, all things JW have started to dilute themselves in my life. I am really forgetting all the doctrine and scriptures- good riddance. The more I forget them, the more I realize it's all the same old story anyway. I am going to visit Flipper's Lake Tahoe Fest again this year. That's like 8 or 9 in a row, I lost count.

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What woke you up?

by HappyBlessedFree in

i’m fairly new so i don’t know everyone’s backstory.

how did you realize the organization was false?.

OnTheWayOut

It's a long story, available for free:

http://watchtowerdocuments.org/alan-miller-shares-his-story/

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Was There An Occasion Where An Entire Congregation Broke Away?

by pale.emperor in

i remember reading somewhere (perhaps on here?

) than an entire congregation disassociated and started their own congregation after decided that the gb were apostate.. was this an urban myth or is there any evidence of this?.

OnTheWayOut

Bonham, Texas:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/197640/real-story-on-why-watchtower-society-lost-kingdom-hall-bonham-texas

Personally, I would skip Kool-Aid Man's links to Six Screens.

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Brain Teaser

by BourneIdentity in

i’ve always wondered about this one.

if the bible says there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, does that mean all mankind that have died will come back to life?

if so, what’s the incentive for jws to have an urgency to preach and save people?

OnTheWayOut

The "resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous" is for those that died before the judgement at Armageddon.....or some similar thought to that- in Watchtower teachings.

As a JW, you can be faithful so that you can see dead loved ones who died already, even if they were not JW's. You must be faithful so that you can live through the Great Tribulation that is just around the next corner and has been for way more than 100 years. But if you live to see God's judgement, and you are killed at it, there is no resurrection for you.

Someone can smooth out the details, but I thought generally all JW's would know this at least in a basic understanding.

So really, they would be better off just mass killing people so they can get a resurrection.

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So I've been warned about whether I should reveal my feelings of a Deity

by HiddenPimo in

all i have to say about that is that i agree with the following quote attributed to marcus aurelius:.

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OnTheWayOut

As for Lee Strobel, if you wanna sell more Christian books, you need a new angle that people haven't tried.
An atheist investigative reporter out to prove Christianity wrong winds up a Christian.

Kinda sorta the new angle people will buy.

I tried looking at one of his "The Case For..." books. It was full of strawman arguments and seemed to accept what the Bible said without question. As far as a man joining a belief after investigating it because his wife joined the belief, we are all aware of that happening all the time in JW's, so it must be common in other Christian religions.

I get that some here will circle the wagons around welcoming or rejecting someone because of their atheism or lack of it. That is sad. We can have our belief arguments but they should not change our support for each other.

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How Do You Think The USA Should Allow Illegal Immigrants To Freely Flow Into The Country?

by minimus in

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many people have said there is no emergency at the border for people illegally coming into the country and furthermore we have an obligation to help these people in a humanitarian way come through.

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do you think we can just keep on taking in all of these people?

OnTheWayOut

Your original title and first posted question and statements are too "loaded" as if you are setting us up for absolutes.

I can ask "When will Minimus stop beating his wife?"

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If shunning were no longer a JW policy, how many would leave the Org?

by HiddenPimo in

additionally - if this shunning rule was removed and everyone was made aware of the dirty secrets of the org.. (e.g.

csa-arc / un membership / malawi - mexico contrast / etc.).

would those leaving be higher?.

OnTheWayOut

I am "inactive." Rules change all the time. Shun, don't shun. I would be concerned that the decision next year is to shun those that they said not to shun. So I wouldn't just go DA myself.

They have too much to lose if people who woke up freely discuss this with people who did not wake up. I don't see such a thing happening. If anything, they will make more hard rules to shun inactive ones eventually.

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My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

by HiddenPimo in

this is my first post.

i am physically in and mentally out.

well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

OnTheWayOut

I would love to chat in person with some of you but that will have to wait till I am POMO / DA'd

If not this year, perhaps next. In the United States, there are gatherings of ex-JW's on meetup.com and some go right through Facebook. A member of this board, Flipper, has an annual July big meetup at Lake Tahoe on the weekend after July 4th typically.

But there is also internet communication and the phone. When you are ready, people are there for you.

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Just noticed something about my membership here

by JeffT in

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i've been a member of this board three years longer than i was a jehovah's witness (eighteen vs fifteen).

i'm sure i've put in more hours here than i did in field service, it was more fun as well.

anybody else with similar numbers?.

OnTheWayOut

I am not there yet. Even when years here surpasses years there, I doubt I would put in the hours I put in as a JW.

Also, I never fake my hours here. (I never really did that there either, but might have rounded up a bit.)

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My Pay No Attention to the Man Behind the Curtain Moment...

by HiddenPimo in

this is my first post.

i am physically in and mentally out.

well i will not be offering a tl/dr version as that would be too difficult and it would also be an oversimplification of how i got to see the man behind the curtain.. my story begins at the 2016 regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

OnTheWayOut

You are preparing your escape? Like Jesus told Judas, “What you are going to do, do quickly.”

I had to leave before my wife was ready to go. She's still JW after more than 13 years away from meetings. I have no regret because I needed to leave for my own sanity.

One similar thing that bothers me is selling Kingdom Halls to "Christendom." If it is wrong to do things that benefit false religion for members, then Watchtower should bulldoze a Kingdom Hall and sell the empty lot before selling it to some other religion.

I like these thoughts you shared: "Whether I believe in Christ / I will enjoy the holidays. I will enjoy my Birthday and others. I will celebrate life because it is the only one we get."

I enjoy birthdays and gift sharing at Christmas. Celebrating life is awesome.