"if members of the congregation are known to.
have undue association with disfellowshipped.
or disassociated relatil'es who are not in the.
Om said:
"Well, he's your brother, but I don't think the elders will consider a Brother-In-Law a "close" relative. They could still DF me for associating with him." And I think she was probably right.
How can any person of sound mind hear these words and not see that they are a deranged, mind control cult?
That being said, I think she was probably right, too.
39. h the accused denies the accusation, the.
investigating elders should try to arrange a meeting.
with him and the accuser together.
Dear heavens. Reading it directly from their "Top Secret Elder's Only Manual" makes my heart, head, and stomach just sick.
Thank you for posting this.
it has been a while since i have posted, but my husband and i frequently visit to see what the latest happenings are.. going on 3 years being out of the borg... and life is starting to feel normal.
halloween, birthdays and christmas; were starting to make our own traditions.
i rarely find myself thinking about the borg anymore and my tuesday nights come and go without me thinking that i use to go to meetings.
Good to see you, Song19, and it sounds like you and your family are doing great.
Hugs to you.
Love,
Baba.
"if members of the congregation are known to.
have undue association with disfellowshipped.
or disassociated relatil'es who are not in the.
Very interesting indeed, and thank you for sharing this, Shepherd.
However, I don't think it will change a THING. People have been brainwashed for too long, and this certainly doesn't stand out in any way as being a definitive CHANGE of operations. It is worded vaguely, and I believe it will be glossed over as business as usual.
i needed to get this off my chest for awhile back i confessed to the elders in my hall that i had sexbfm, i was dating a sister for 2 years and she wouldnt marry me until i became an elder like her dad.
so i fell into some sin and did the deed, one night stand with a stranger.
i felt bad for it and told the brothers, well they recommended me for dfing, i told them i wasnt sure where i was in life spiritually and they said i need to go on my own and figure it out...well 7 days or so later i went and called the po and asked him if he would hear my repentance, he said it was too late (one day past the alotted time) and they already sent the letter to the society...well i asked what can i do and they recommened a judical comittee of like 8 brothers from surrounding halls to hear my case, well i sat in a massive circle of 10 or more brothers in a back room and opened up all of my repentance and tears and confessions, they all were in an agrement that i was worthy to stay in the organization becuase as they stated "you are a good fine brother that loves jehovah" but.... they recounted that they have to go with the first decision they 3 elders in my hall made, then told me to work my way back in no time.....this was a turning point of craziness, my mother father brother sister all stopped talking to me imeddiatly not a word, they were from the old school 70's witnesses (not like the ones today) they were taught to be strickt!
Pes said:
lots of love to you all!
Lots of love right back atcha, pes0210!
Healing does come. Believe me. Reading and posting here helps a lot, no matter how long you've been out (at least that was certainly my experience!)
Love,
Baba.
are the rank and file generally catching wind of the f bomb (you know -- the flock book's leaking and world wide distribution)?
what have you heard?.
UGottaBeJoking said:
The whole world knows. Nobody cares. Next!!!
You are wrong. The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society cares, and in fact, they care a great deal. It is all about CONTROL and LOSS of said control. You can't run a cult without control, you know.
art!.
what the hell is it?.
i can't tell you what it is, but, i can tell you what i think it does.. art changes you.. it stops you cold in your tracks.. when you finally walk away from it you keep on thinking about it.. you can't shrug it off easily.. it's now a different world for you.. .
Yes, I love that quote!
It is mostly attibuted to Pablo Picasso, but I also saw a reference that Jean Cocteau had said it. Well... it is a perfectly wonderful thing to say, who knows who said it first.
Art is a lie which tells the truth. ~Jean Cocteau
We all know that art is not truth. Art is a lie that makes us realize the truth. ~ Pablo Picasso
art!.
what the hell is it?.
i can't tell you what it is, but, i can tell you what i think it does.. art changes you.. it stops you cold in your tracks.. when you finally walk away from it you keep on thinking about it.. you can't shrug it off easily.. it's now a different world for you.. .
I'll give this some thought, Terry. Yes... perhaps true capital "A" art SHOULD change lives... or at least show us something we had never even thought of seeing before.
Okay... in that case, perhaps this thread was art... it has left me thinking... and there is a possibility that it will change my life. I might get back to you on that.
he's a guy and upon request, he gave me his e-mail address so he could give me a yes or a no to my invitation to join us tonight for dinner.. after i asked him if he'd like to join us, he snickered and said i don't know.
give me a couple of hours to think about it.
i asked him four hours later if he had decided, yet, but he hadn't even thought about it yet.. i said that it's not a test question, no right or wrong answer.. he asked where and i said it's a nice place uptown.. he said that he needed to think about it because of the dress up thing.. i said he didn't need to dress up, that just slacks and a nice shirt would do.. that was two days ago, and i haven't heard back from him, yet, although i did e-mail him so he could let me know.. i'm the wheels for the evening, so i needed to know so i could pick him up, or not.. does no answer (seems like avoidance) mean no, or is there some other excuse that might (wanna say rescue his ass but won't say it) be plausible?.
Sorry, White Dove, he's not what he appeared to be. I'm with Vampire... spend time with folks who care and who take the time to reply!
But more importantly...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Love,
Baba.
some funny opas:.
what is happening to my body?.
how can i avoid photography?.
What am I still doing here?
Why have I grown old?
Wasn't the New System going to be here before I finished high school?
Why did the Organization discourage me from having children?
Why don't I have anything for my retirement?
Tell me again, why would having a retirement account show a lack of faith?
I forgot, why was college such a horrible thing?
Why do I feel so alone if I have a worldwide brotherhood?
