good evening jwn!!...
as most of you know i live in a forest,in the mountains..at night there is very little light pollution... so the sky is one big theatre screen... i see shooting stars,northern lights,satellites,planes on a destination..it`s all very beautiful... tonight was different... .
tonight there was something in the sky that defied anything i`ve ever seen... it had multiple aircraft lights but not like regular airplane lights..it wasn`t a helicopter... it could go straight up or down... move in one direction then head in another..it could do all kinds of weird stuff... sometimes it just hovered..then start doing all these weird maneuvers... regular aircraft is going somewhere,it`s headed in a direction..not this thing... i watched a regular airplane pass it... .
Outlaw, you're driving us all crazy. Mary's right, chop, chop! Get a camera together with a telescope to at least get SOME documentation of the thing, such as Unc Bruce suggested.
HUGS TO UNCLE BRUCE!!! 
Okay, that's it, I've had my say.
Ha.
Love,
Baba.
then add the pineapple:.
now add some fresh basil.
chop up some basil (thai basil is best), and mix into the vegetable medley.. .
What a cool thread, Leo! Love the pix walkthrough, and it sounds and LOOKS amazingly delicious! I can almost smell it... I just wish I could TASTE it!
Yes I think I'll be giving this one a go.
Thank you!
Love!
Baba.
Hello and welcome.
Love,
Baba.
last friday i posted something supportive of gays on facebook - it was as follows: put this on your status if you know or love someone who is gay.
my wish is that people will understand that being gay is not a disease nor a choice- people who are gay are not looking for a cure but acceptance and equal rights... 93% won't copy and paste this.
will you make it your ...status for at least one hour?
Ugh. There is so much wrong with her "right" there is nothing for me to do but shake my head (which now has a bit of a headache.) Oh, to discuss (argue?) with someone who will not hear.
On the other hand, your friend's comment:
"Ginny, I'm sorry, I don't know who Melissa is to you, but she needs to get a life. Everybody has their own opinion, it doesn't mean it is right. The bible says, the bible says..... Melissa, you are the reason I'm not as religious anymore.... you have more hate, discrimination, and judgement in your heart than God does. God loves all! You can state your opinion, which we ALL see in its length, but it doesn't mean YOU are right either!"
cheered me up considerably.
no, charles taze russell was not a pennsylvania freemason!.
this is the answer i received in a letter: .
"after a search of our records, we determined that the three russell's were not members of our organization.
Bookmarked. Thank you Barbara and Blondie (et al) who keep us straight around here!
to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you have peace!.
i have a very sincere question to ask because of some recent comments i've received regarding postings on the board.
the subject is on my mind... and heart... because of two similar incidents that occurred in my life since my journey began, which i would like to relate to you.
Dear AGuest said:
Prior to entering into the WTBTS, my friends (bohemian/hippie-types) and I would discuss... well, everything. From religion to politics to families to work to current events (local, national, global)... and more. But once inside the WTBTS I found my conversation virtually limited to, well, "theocratic" lingo. No matter WHAT the subject was. Sooner or later the words "Society", "FDS," "meetings", "field service," and... well, you know... the usual words... came up. Every conversation either reached that vocabulary... circled around to that vocabularly... referred to something in that vocabulary... or had to consist only OF that vocabulary.
And then... my Lord set me FREE. To love anyone I wanted... and to discuss anything I wanted... with anyone I wanted. I did not know that freedom while I was touching the Borg. But I know it now. Yet... I find that even though I am out of the Borg... and no longer touching her... there are some HERE... who want to bind me, again... to restrict my FREEDOM... and my BOLDNESS... of speech... even though such freedom is written... IN THE BIBLE.
I LOVE those paragraphs. It is so true (and terrifying and wonderful, that now we are free.)
Several things came to my mind reading this. One, the only thing I can think of that would really bring on a huge and potentially nasty knee-jerk reaction was talking about anything JW related (once I left, and BEFORE I found this site and started HEALING after all those years of being in denial and feeling so alone!) When anyone asked me what it was like to grow up a Witness, or why JW's do this or that, I would cringe, and literally have a bit of a panic attack. Short breath, tense neck, and rude retort! I guess in those cases, it wasn't so much something I didn't know about, but it was certainly something that brought up pain and panic.
The similarity is in the FEAR, I suppose. Fear (not money) is the root of all evil. I feared the memories of my life inside the org, and the threats it still posed to myself and my loved ones, and your old friends perhaps feared that which they did not know. Which came first, the feeling of fear or the insecurity? Who knows, but the reaction is the same.
The other thing is that part of the ongoing wonder of this site is being able to interact with so many who are FRESH OUT!!! They have a lot of un-conditioning to do. Some, like myself, wandered around in denial for years before facing the fear and the TRUTH about the "Truth". Some folks, no matter what their background, never cope with their fears and insecurities. Ever. It's probably a bit sad, but it is much sadder for them than for those of us who attempt to interact with them.
One more thought. I am afraid that many people have a knee-jerk reaction to anything with the words "god", "bible", or "jesus" in them. I still have a bit of a reaction to the word "church". Perhaps after their (our) experience, they react to all of it the same way that I reacted to anything JW, having thrown the baby out with the proverbial bath water. I even referred to myself as "the anti-religion poster child."
There are many on here who see your love and brilliant light, Shelby, no matter who or what you want to attribute it to. Personally, I do not believe the bible is the verbatim word of god for many reasons, but I do believe it was written by those who yearned for god, and that (to me) makes it beautiful.
When it comes to words and light, the two do not often mix. Often we are thwarted by words, when if we just got past them, we would find we are talking about the same things. That reminds me of one of my favorite quotes: "All mystics speak the same language, for they come from the same country." ~Louis Claude de St Martin.
Love to you, Shelby.
hi u guys, this is my first post.
i really dont know where to start except for now i have found out the truth about the "truth".
she asked if i want to still be a jw and i said no.
Hello and welcome. It won't be easy, but it will be worth it. Everything will sort itself out. And believe us... it DOES get better.
Love,
Baba.
good evening jwn!!...
as most of you know i live in a forest,in the mountains..at night there is very little light pollution... so the sky is one big theatre screen... i see shooting stars,northern lights,satellites,planes on a destination..it`s all very beautiful... tonight was different... .
tonight there was something in the sky that defied anything i`ve ever seen... it had multiple aircraft lights but not like regular airplane lights..it wasn`t a helicopter... it could go straight up or down... move in one direction then head in another..it could do all kinds of weird stuff... sometimes it just hovered..then start doing all these weird maneuvers... regular aircraft is going somewhere,it`s headed in a direction..not this thing... i watched a regular airplane pass it... .
This is the coolest, Outlaw. Do you have a pal close by you can call who might have a camera that could get a decent shot of it?
12-31-00. watchtower.
25 columbia heights.
brooklyn, ny 11201. dear brothers,.
Powerful to read. Thank you Bill Bowen for this letter and all you have done since (and thanks for bumping this thread back into circulation, Zoiks.)
stepped down in feb 2010 official around april.
i had time to read books which never really liked to read.
however if the subject intrest me thats diffrent.
Hello and welcome, LoveDoctor.
Along with Crisis of Conscience by our beloved Ray Franz (rest in peace) you will also want to read two books by Steven Hassan: Combatting Cult Mind Control and Releasing the Bonds. They might possibly be a great asset in getting your wife to listen. Take it slow! Giving her this information too fast will throw her into panic and defensive mode.
We're glad you're here.
Love,
Baba.
