Posts by Gilberto

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Scamed on Ebay

by noni1974 in

jw
friends

i bought what was advertized as a sapphire and diamond 10 k ring.what i got was a coustume plated fake gold fake sapphire fake diamond ring.i was also way over charged for shipping.i was charged $14.99 and i asked the seller if it would be insured for that price.they said it would be.they paid $1.13 for the shipping and no insurance.. .

i've made a report to both ebay and paypal.i'm thinking of reporting it to my visa card company.now i'm waiting for the seller to reply to me.now what?

?i'm new to this ebay thing.should i shipp it back to the seller?

Gilberto

My wife sells jewellery on ebay, (in the UK, so it wasn't from her).

She will issue refunds if the item is returned even if there is nothing wrong. This very rarely happens (so it is a good business policy to offer such). Your seller may do the same.

On the issue of insurance. Our postal service offers cover up to £30 on normal postage. So your item may have been covered anyway.

If your seller is reputable, I am sure the situation will be resolved amicably.

I reckon Ebay is a good place for buyers. It is very expensive for sellers: what with Lising fees, final value fees, PayPal fees.

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Faith and marital fidelity go hand in hand (except for Jehovah's Witnesses)

by Gilberto in

so jehovah's witnesses can't claim the moral highground when it comes to being faithful to their marriage mates.. http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?sid=86808&sc=89.

faith and marital fidelity go hand in hand: study .

shannon proudfoot.

Gilberto

Will

We can probably expect to see this partial quote in a future publication

"What matters the most is being involved in a religious organization," says Amy Burdette

JWs are a "religious organisation"

Therefore the WT would put it like this;

"What matters the most is being involved in [the Jehovah's Witnesses]," says Amy Burdette

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Faith and marital fidelity go hand in hand (except for Jehovah's Witnesses)

by Gilberto in

so jehovah's witnesses can't claim the moral highground when it comes to being faithful to their marriage mates.. http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?sid=86808&sc=89.

faith and marital fidelity go hand in hand: study .

shannon proudfoot.

Gilberto

Is it because JWs serve rules and regulations and not love? In that way they are no different from the rest.

Whereas other christians have a deeper feeling for others.

I don't know, just a thought.

Or is it that JW's were more honest in answering the survey than other religions?

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Feb 15th Watchtower Study Edition - NEW LIGHT - Article in PDF

by AlphaOmega in

the generation seeing the sign .

' previously, this journal has explained that in the first century, "this generation" mentioned at matthew 24:34 meant "the contemporaneous generation of unbelieving jews.

not the whole magazine, but this is the new light article.. .

Gilberto

The generation now refers to the anointed.

It is possible to relate the generation to the anointed now because they changed the fact that the anointed was sealed in 1935. So people today can claim to be anointed.

Before the sealing change they couldn't refer to the generation as anointed because "they will by no means pass away", and so they should have done so very shortly (the fact the number of anointed has been around 8,000 for 20+ years is another topic).

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Feb 15th Watchtower Study Edition - NEW LIGHT - Article in PDF

by AlphaOmega in

the generation seeing the sign .

' previously, this journal has explained that in the first century, "this generation" mentioned at matthew 24:34 meant "the contemporaneous generation of unbelieving jews.

not the whole magazine, but this is the new light article.. .

Gilberto

Just so I'm clear, as a non-Dub, the current generation light is that "the generation" is the generation of 1914 people, right?

Mrs Witness

The 1914 generation teaching was changed in 1995 to what has been alluded to in this wt article.

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WOULD WOMEN MAKE GOOD ELDERS?

by Dansk in

jw
friends

i've come to love and cherish much of the wisdom that emanates from the dear ladies of this forum and believe watchtower boobed in making all women subservient to the men.

so, do you think women would make good elders?.

ian.

Gilberto

Just to clarify my first post.

The reason I don't think it would be the same religion is that it seems to me to be based on male dominance. The bible, the great men of old, jesus, apsotles, governing body etc.

The reason I mention about the affairs is because of a topic I started showing that JW's are no better at marital fidelity than non beleivers. However other religions showed much more faithfulness.

I post this because I sense I may have been misunderstood.

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I need some advice...my first post!

by Dehliah in

i've been around for awhile, but never registered for fear of giving my personal information (yes, that's how much the borg scares me.

i was raised in the org, and left when i was 18. i realized that every religion firmly believed that they were correct, and that forced me to re-evaluate the religion on its merits, as opposed to my insistent belief.

needless to say, i saw the man behind the curtain.

Gilberto

Hi there and welcome.

Just a point on the elder asking if you considered yourself a JW.

It could be to rule you out from disfellowshipping.

I was asked the same question. I avoided answering, I thought sayng no would constitute DAing myself. I was then asked if the elders could come and see me, I said "no, don't bother". I thought they were after me, but nothing happened, it has been a while now.

The reason is, if you don't consider yourself a JW and have not asociated for some time they can leave you alone. The main thing is do not meet with them.

Here is the section Pay Attention Book. p99/100

Baptized persons who have not associated for some time .

If you learn of serious wrongdoing on the part of such a
person, the matter should be investigated if it poses a
threat to the congregation's cleanness and welfare or causes
a public scandal .
Consider the following :
Does he still profess to be a Witness?
Is he generally recognized as such in the congregation
and/or the community?
Does the person have a measure of contact or
association with the congregation so that a leavening,
or corrupting, influence exists?
How did the matter become known to the elders?

UNIT 5 (a)
99

Is the person willing to meet with a committee,
thus admitting accountability to the Christian congregation?
Depending upon length of inactivity and other factors
suggested above,elders may determine to hold the
matter in abeyance .
In such a case, a record of the person's questionable
conduct should be made for the congregation file so
that everything noted might be clarified when the
person shows interest in becoming active again .
If the sinful conduct is known only to believing family
members and no congregation action is taken because
of the factors outlined above, believing relatives will
likely determine to curtail family association severely,
viewing the relative as bad association . (1 Cor. 15 :33)
If the individual still professes to be a Witness and is
willing to meet with the judicial committee, the matter
should be handled in the normal way . However, when
factors such as possible legal action exist, it is best to
consult the Society before proceeding . (w87 9/1 p . 14)

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WOULD WOMEN MAKE GOOD ELDERS?

by Dansk in

jw
friends

i've come to love and cherish much of the wisdom that emanates from the dear ladies of this forum and believe watchtower boobed in making all women subservient to the men.

so, do you think women would make good elders?.

ian.

Gilberto

How could I forget? There's nothing so striking as a man in an reflective jacket, waving his arms about.

Actually, we didn't have reflective jackets. It would have made us feel even more important though, that I am sure.

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WOULD WOMEN MAKE GOOD ELDERS?

by Dansk in

jw
friends

i've come to love and cherish much of the wisdom that emanates from the dear ladies of this forum and believe watchtower boobed in making all women subservient to the men.

so, do you think women would make good elders?.

ian.

Gilberto

I have to say I felt sorry for sisters in the hall. Us men were able to break the monotony of the meetings by giving talks, doing sound, microphones, even adjusting the platform mic. We even had security patrols around the car park.

The women couln't do anything except sit there!

They would be frowned at if they went to the toilet, but we could go out the back because we had something important to do.

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WOULD WOMEN MAKE GOOD ELDERS?

by Dansk in

jw
friends

i've come to love and cherish much of the wisdom that emanates from the dear ladies of this forum and believe watchtower boobed in making all women subservient to the men.

so, do you think women would make good elders?.

ian.

Gilberto

It is really hard to imagine that.

I just don't think it would be the same religion.

Also can you imagine the affairs that would go on. " Just off to an elder's meeting love, yes I know it is the third one this week ...No I can't tell you what it's about. I may be quite late ...No, of course I will have to keep my phone switched off ...It's Jehovahs' work."