Thanks Mary I read throught the Gumby threads..........I didn't see anything about Gumby's situation though just comments that he was going back... Like him more than 95% of my family is in the org. I just am afraid that I won't be able to do it.
JB
born and raised in the borg.. i haven't posted for some time.
i got divorced from my jw wife, of 25 years, after living with another woman for almost 1.5 years [knew her for 3 years] .
the divorce that was my doing was last dec. 06. the divorce went through but all the financial settlements have yet to be agreed on.
Thanks Mary I read throught the Gumby threads..........I didn't see anything about Gumby's situation though just comments that he was going back... Like him more than 95% of my family is in the org. I just am afraid that I won't be able to do it.
JB
born and raised in the borg.. i haven't posted for some time.
i got divorced from my jw wife, of 25 years, after living with another woman for almost 1.5 years [knew her for 3 years] .
the divorce that was my doing was last dec. 06. the divorce went through but all the financial settlements have yet to be agreed on.
Changeling what would you feel are pure motives for returning?
born and raised in the borg.. i haven't posted for some time.
i got divorced from my jw wife, of 25 years, after living with another woman for almost 1.5 years [knew her for 3 years] .
the divorce that was my doing was last dec. 06. the divorce went through but all the financial settlements have yet to be agreed on.
Born and raised in the borg.
I haven't posted for some time. I got divorced from my JW wife, of 25 years, after living with another woman for almost 1.5 years [knew her for 3 years]
The divorce that was my doing was last Dec. 06. The divorce went through but all the financial settlements have yet to be agreed on. This March 4th, 07 the other woman dumped me as I would not marry her .......... guess I never did really love her in retrospect.
In the meantime my JW brothers, and JW father did everything they could to kill my business, which I owned only 30% of with my JW father. I lost my income back in Dec.'06 [company stopped paying me] and are really living hand to mouth right now with all sorts of credit problems....and no job prospects. I miss my wife and my kids who are in their late teens.
So I lost my wife and kids and my business which was quite successful.
Right now I'm just barely making it living in a rooming house. I have caused all sorts of financial problems for my ex - wife and we will have to sell the house anyways and make a downwards move into some other living arrangements. The house is one we built in 1999 and is huge and beautiful. fortunately my ex-wife landed a reasonably good job and maintains the mortgage for now.
Before moving in with the other woman I had tried leaving her twice over a three year period and going back to put it together with my ex wife....and I failed each time.....couldn't do it and always missed the other woman.....that is over now.
While I dislike the meetings, the service, the boring stuff I am thinking of asking my ex-wife to take me back, remarry and then go for re-instatement. Then after reinstatement do a slow fade so at least I'll have my family back. I'm really down right now 50 years of age and having a hard time trying to put it all together find work etc.....going back to her would be at 1st for love...i miss her, 2nd to see my kids and 3rd as a financial thing.
Another thing is I smoke regularily and enjoy it....that's another worry........ as I like it and my ex hates smoking....even though I know it's bad for me........I was always a closet smoker even as an MS. Obvioulsy as going back for reinstatement I would have to quit or go back to smoking only occassionally while hiding.
I just wish that this religion wasn't involved in my life.......I'm sure I'd still be married to my ex wife now. I haven't talked to my ex yet about putting it back together or trying but she does say that she still cares for me and that I have many friends [JW's] that care about me too......of course none have them have called me or talked to me since I was DF'd 2.5 years ago for admitting to the adultery
Don't know what to do right now? any advice
JB.......don't want to live in poverty...and miss my family
i just found out yesterday.
i remember the girl from my 'past life' when she was still at school - she's nice, but i hear that she's been in a couple of relationships that didn't work out.
thing is, the dub version of a 'courtship' that doesn't work out is when it doesn't end in marriage!
ask the sister if she does 'everything' ?
i never cared about chronology.
i was never interested in stupid convoluted explanations about dates or how a scripture in revelation applied to the anointed.
it was always bs to me.
the chronology was silly, the family 'advice' talks, the talks on cleanliness [as iff we were all still living out in the ozarks or the praries in the 1930's and didn't know how to was properly], the hallowed visits of the CO what a pain having to act excitied about these dorks.
the visits by royalty in my family....that was when Prime Minister Theodore and Queen Melita Jaracz came to a big family gathering. Funny enough this large family gather was usually put on by my Uncle V who is not a witness at all but was a good source of catering and a big pad and lot's of booze.
Nice! K
as you may or may not recall, the february '07 km (for the us) had a huge article, taking up the full 4 page insert, on the "blessings" of auxiliary pioneering.
the part covering that insert took up the entire service meeting (aside form the announcements).
the "encouragement" was that the us branch had set a goal of 160,000 auxiliary pioneers for the month of april ("if only one of every 6 publishers signs up, we can make it!")..
I had the bad fortune to pick this AUX P work some 15 years back or so.....what a stupid waste of time. I was the territory servan at the time so I used to go to the group and then fuck off and go to the library and read everthing I could get my hands on. Then sometime I would do a call or two, count all the time for the whole day and then go for beers at a local pub. I'd then count that time too. What a silly pain in the ass.....at the same time I tookd a months paid leave off work to accomplish this craziness.....my employers were 'happy' as they too were J DUBS.
K
quite a thought, huh?
i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).
i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.
Hated most of it...I cursed both sets of grandparents for joining this wack-case group in the 1930's. Both my parents were dyed in the woold JW's my hypocritical father [in his 80's] is still an elder in good standing in Vancouver. This despite the fact that he has alienated himself from my son, who dutifully followed him around every Sat morning pushing literature on all at the subways. Now he woun't return my son's calls as I , the dad , are out DF'd and an embarrassement to the family. To make it worse Teddy Jaracz is a close relative in this wack-nut family i'm in. In the spring I ran away to Hawaii and Japan for a few weeks just to lose the whole bunch of them.
I hated being a JW in school.....no b-days, x-mas, just more meeting, meetings , meetings etc.....and then SERVICE!!!
I used to have to work in service with this old Polish guy who used st stick his foot in the door as it was closing and then proceed in a loud voice to tell the householder that they would DIE if deh don LOOK to Da Bible!! It sucked and I wouldn't wish this on anyone......letalone kids. OUTLAW you have it right that our fucked up parents had NO IDEA what we had to go thru in school.
Kirk
i can confirm (as there seems to be some doubt) at the service meeting last night during the item about the new watchtower, a letter was read by the po.
the public talk is to be 30 minutes long.
this is to allow for more association and ministry.. lengthy negative introductions about the state of the system of things/deep last days etc are to be heavily curtailed.
Why not just CANCEL all the meetin's!
just a thought K
here's one: you can't give blood but you can take a blood fraction (which someone else has to give).
Drinking in 'MODERATION' some of the biggest piss-tank parties I ever attended were J-Dub bashes. 'hic'!
Happy 'hic'! Holidays and Best of the New Year to all.
K
has anyone ever posted about the tons of time magazine articles about the jws?
time has been around forever and has been a 'witness' (pardon the pun) to much of their history .. clear back to the 1930s.
go to the time website and search for yourself!
Was there ever any articles that discussed the 'generation change' in the mide 1990's done by outside sources such as time? This was on of the big things for me. K