The best post I have read in some time on here! Thank you, ATJ!
j
they mean the leadership.
all of this is code for: one who is not ready to really study and accept how the leadership of jehovah's witnesses use the bible to their own self serving means.
but to be fair, jw's teach that most all of these characters refer to the leadership of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body.
The best post I have read in some time on here! Thank you, ATJ!
j
i love christmas, i don't know if i am going to have a christmas tree this year.
most of my family live in kentucky.. i love decorating the christmas tree.
i have a ten month old cat that gets into everything, eats everything.
Me and Wifey Christmas 2006. j
please do not try it - the balance of the thread will explain.
i am locking this thread and letting it fade away, but those who read it should see that there are some problems by some that i did not experience before i posted the thread.
i have notified admin to address the email/identity issues.
Damn! I was realllly going to try to wean myself away from the xjw forums. It looks like I'm in for good, now.
my awakening was gradual, but first took place upon arriving at gilead school... see details in this video.... .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgj5dztbleq.
i've addressed some of the concerns and feedback from my first video... no more star wars lettering, lol....
Great work, Lance!
j
i've been giving this a lot of thought.
i'm thinking that, as a born-in, i was raised thinking that everybody who wasn't a dub was stupid and i had to go door-to-door to enlighten them.
and that the ones who were so stupid and stubborn as to not respond to my message (which was all of them, lol!
Jeremy, I've tried to discuss this with my Dad but he doesn't "get it." I'm one of six children. Three of my siblings are Dubs, three of us are out. My dad is not a Dub, except by association with my mother, which affects his mindset considerably. Anyway, he can't understand why his children don't come around him and visit him and have a strong sense of family. I've tried to explain to him that, being raised as Dubs, we had to try to distance ourselves from him emotionally because he was not a Dub and was going to be destroyed at Armageddon. We were taught to distance ourselves emotionally from all non-Dubs. Even when you're no longer a Dub, it's hard to learn how to embrace and be close to people because, even with the Dubs that you loved and cherished, you were trained to watch them with a suspicious eye and tattle on them if they did anything of which the WTS didn't approve and were taught to be prepared to switch off your heart if the person were, heaven forbid, DF'd. I feel Dubs are trained from birth to keep all good, strong emotions at arm's length. I guess I'm talking about the conditional love. But when you've been taught so well how to love conditionally, it's difficult to train yourself how to act differently.
Ouch!...But so true...
Bastards!
in today's ny times there is an article on this topic, and here are two quotes:.
"bad times are good for evangelical churches.
'its a wonderful time, a great evangelistic opportunity for us,' said the rev.
When people are already "feeling bad", due to poor economic conditions, and other stresses, who wants to sit in the KH and get even beet-up even more?
just curious, what percentage of people here actually left the jw org because of this site or similar sites?
do these sites really help people to get out?
I left on my own, with strong suspicions of the WT. I could not deal with the cognitive dissonance anymore. I came here only after I "knew" I was right about leaving. JWD has been very effective in helping out afterwards.
Thanks Simon!
someone just sent me a link to the 2008 annual report.. haven't read it yet.
randy .
http://www.4shared.com/file/75568905/6c852737/2008_annual_report.html.
I can tell you right now those figures are false.
Some of those hours reported were mine and they were made up.
Don't believe everything you read. The increase of 2% means absolutely nothing.
The truth about this religion is spreading like fire - how many of those poor souls still reporting really believe it's the truth?
How many of them visit here?
Spot on TS, as usual!
j
someone just sent me a link to the 2008 annual report.. haven't read it yet.
randy .
http://www.4shared.com/file/75568905/6c852737/2008_annual_report.html.
However there are numbers in there for them to be pleased about. Total average pioneers is over 1 million for the first time ever I think - a number that has been steadily rising the past few years.
The trend I see in the borg these days, (and the last few years I was "in"), has been that they are becomming more polarized. It is no big surprise that the number of pioneers is up. These days, in the org, you are either a super dub or on your way out, (even if slowly).
j
just a thought....what do you think?
and if so what will it be?
Like any other entity, (social, religious, biological, etc), they will either evolve, or eventually become extinct. They have too many factors working against them at present, (no dates, can't really have dates because people will see that as "whacky", financial issues, a smarter and better informed r&f, numbers too big to be controllable, etc), to last in their current form much longer.
That said, they will probably go into some type of recession, then rebuild and change, as required.
j