is it that bad??
is it worse than fundamentalists of every other sort?
are jws worse than radical muslims?
Bethel was in "LOCKDOWN". No one could leave or come in. JWs are the farthest thing from a humanitarian organization! Yet right after this, they were on the streets passing out tracts giving people "hope"! Ha!
That is unreal, Minimus, just disgusting. I never would have thought that, not even from them.
j
is it that bad??
is it worse than fundamentalists of every other sort?
are jws worse than radical muslims?
What Jaguarbass said. I would also add, anything that can not allow for mental freedom should be immediately recognized as evil.
j
two months ago i stepped down as an elder in the cong, it was a tremdous relief although a shock to the cong.
two and a half days ago i sent in a letter of explaination concerning why i wanted to step down and why i will be absent from the kh.
it only took two and a half days for the accusation of apostasy to be made against me.
Welcome, Concerned X! It will be tough road ahead, but well worth it in the end!
j
there are 3 current threads that say these very things.
(ok, the one about armageddon says it will come within days or weeks--not months--so that means june 2007.
seems to me this is whipping up into a paranoia bigger than the 1980s apostate scare, bigger than they've ever seen before.
The whole thing is just cyclical, that's all. 1975 was 32 years ago, and it's time once again stir up the masses. The last time they did this before '75 was the early 1940s, another 30 odd years. People are realizing the end isn't comming anytime soon, so desparation on the part of the GB kicks in as a matter of course. Once the numbers begin to dwindle becasue of it, they'll shut up for a while again.
j
i'm just curious, if you could imagine taking control over the jws.
as an acting president, what specific changes would you make to .
the organization to make it more approachable, livable and attainable for the general population ?.
Close shop.
j
and to think, it'll be the day after my birthday!
my daughter is being induced as we speak.
wish her luck!
Congrats, Min.
j
when the berlin wall came down, even before the offical dissolution of the soviet union, the watchtower was quick to back away from the idea that russia was the king of the north.
nothing really changed.
true, there is an appearance of friendship and cooperation between russia and the us but russia is the one country that can totally destroy the usa.
I would take the time to explain how an atheist like me STILL believes in Bible Prophecy if you asked...
I would really like to hear that. No, I'm not being sarcastic here.
j
think about this.. go way back...far far back in history.. go back before the internet.
go back farther.. go back before newspapers, tv and radio.. go waaaaay back before there was public education.. return to a time when there were no universities or libraries.. go even farther back in time and return to when it was thousands of years before any modern era.. people got their ideas from their families and neighbors period!.
everything was rumor.
Great post, Terry. One of your best so far.
j
first of all, why don't all of you congratulate me on 2000 posts!
in other news, the jc is over.
because of this we have an elder that lied to us and to my wife parents.
Drew, I didn't get through the entire thread yet, but you won, really you won!!! You exposed another good example of just how dishonest and unloving this evil organization is.
btw: I think leaving on your own terms is a great idea. Don't give them an inch. Bastards!
Jason
i wonder how it strikes you when you read of those facing or have faced one of your tribunals?.
as x men in charge, how do you feel reading the pain and panic here?.
r..
>>But I did shun people before and I feel horrible about that.Interesting. I've seen several threads along this line before, directed to ex-elders, but almost all of us have shunned someone at some point. (I know many of you never did, putting humanity above obedience to the bOrg -- filthy sinners!) In the same way we went along with the order to shun, elders went along with the order to DF. I feel bad about those I shunned. (Though I wasn't quite as rabid about it as some JW's are. Still, shunning is shunning.)
Dave
I agree with Dave and looking_glass on this one. Everyone plays a role of responsibility here. About the only ones that could be counted as truly "inncoent" here are maybe those that left the org by choice when they were still young.
j
