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When you were a JW true believer, what were you most afraid of?
by under_believer init's been pretty well established that all religions use fear as a motivator, to some degree.
the jw's have honed this practice to a near art form.
what were you most afraid of when you were a jw?
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Things JW's say: "If I wasn't raised in, I would never have come in."
by under_believer inevery once in a while i hear a jw say "if i hadn't been raised in the truth, i never would have come into the truth.
" have you ever heard that?
wishful thinking?
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What leaving really means
by under_believer inrecently my family had occasion to attend a function held in our honor, an event commemorating a certain achievement.
it was thrown by close relatives, witnesses all.
it included parents, grandparents, cousins, siblings, auties and uncles.
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Overheard at a private gathering of Witnesses
by under_believer inmenopausal female, regarding another jw female with profound mental problems that cause her to miss all the meetings and also be very unpleasant to be around: "she doesn't go to the meetings.
she's like a worldly person.
she is a worldly person.
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Things JW's Say: "In the New Order, I will <insert activity here>."
by under_believer inone of the most notorious things that jw's like to talk about are their expectations for the new order.
they talk about what things will be like, the kind of activities they'll enjoy, how resurrection will work, what the "worldwide cleanup work" will entail, which houses they'll appropriate, how they'll finally be able to have the kids they've put off, and so on.
here are some of the things i've heard witnesses say about the new order: they would personally explore the moons of jupiter for possible human colonization they would eat meat, since isaiah talks about "well oiled dishes filled with marrow" they would travel the world they would learn to play the piano they would research the "other scrolls that would be opened" they would play football (but not tackle football) they would have bible studies with newly resurrected ones they would speak hebrew (it's the language god gave adam and eve, you know, and we'll all have one language in the new order...) they would literally never feel any pain sensations ever again, even if they banged their elbow.
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Overheard at the Book Study
by under_believer inhere are a few comments that i overheard at this week's book study (of the third chapter of the bible teach book), and the thoughts i had after hearing them: .
conductor: "as food shortages become more and more common as the time of the end advances, they will make excellent field service points since they were predicted by the bible.
me: great.
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1999 new light on voting?
by under_believer inso it was just brought to my attention that the nov 1, 1999 watchtower, while still strongly discouraging voting, says:.
*** w99 11/1 p. 28 questions from readers ***.
as to whether they will personally vote for someone running in an election, each one of jehovahs witnesses makes a decision based on his bible-trained conscience and an understanding of his responsibility to god and to the state.
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New Study: People With Hard Lives Are More Gullible. Applies to JW's?
by under_believer ina new study (available here) run at the university of leicester seems to indicate that people who have lived hard lives, been knocked around, or otherwise had things go south on them are more likely to be gullible and easily misled or even brainwashed.
you should read the entire article, because it's full of things i can identify with as a jw.
so what kind of people are typically affected?
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I don't believe in Bible chronology. I believe in love.
by under_believer ini think so-called "bible chronology" is ridiculous.
i think that the concept that god left all these hidden messages that require all kinds of mathematics, symbolic time periods, coded references, antitypicals, classes of people, lesser and greater fulfillments, and so forth, really stretches credibility.. why would god do that?
why would he make it so complicated and confusing to serve him in true worship?
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Things JW's Say: "Yes I'm Brainwashed... And Proud Of It!"
by under_believer inthat last post about the "college education" was so successful i decided to post another.
has anybody ever heard witnesse say the above?
they'll say that, and then they'll follow up with "my brain is washed of evil thoughts, immoral sexual impulses, independent, goatlike thinking, demonism, etc..." this is something i have heard in conversation, comments at the meeting, and from the platform in the congregation, though never at a higher level than that.