"3)A young brother who had the bible reading did not read it but he sang it. The brothers didn't stop him. The folks that were not paralyzed from shock excused themselves because they were laughing so hard."
Hilarious! Did he have a good voice?
The only one I can think of is a Ministerial Servant with epilepsy was giving a Public Talk and his nerves caused him to have a fit on stage, which was a shock to the audience.
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109Your most memorable Kingdom Hall meeting disruptions!
by easyreader1970 ini remember about twenty years ago some teenagers were caught fornicating in one of the additional schools.
the schools were downstairs, essentially separated from the rest of the kh.
they weren't just happened upon, though.
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What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?
by Malkiel ini've always wanted to ask this question to those that have decided to leave the organization.. what will you do when the great tribulation begins?.
right now folks, a lot is happening in the political world.. gordon brown (prime miniter of england) last week gave a speech to the un stating that it is time for the un to step in and solve the world's problems, (specifically mentioning the economy and hunger crisis worldwide.).
barrack obama is shaping up to be the next president, a fellow who sure knows how to persuade and lead great crowds.
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I can't understand why the UN is evil. Is it because it promotes peace, something only God's Kingdom can bring real, lasting peace?
Isn't this like declaring hospitals evil for trying to cure sick people, since only God's Kingdom can bring real, lasting cures?
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Personal observations Re: former religious members
by Zico init seems to me that many (not all) agnostics/atheists on here, as former jws, seem to grow quite an adversity to religion as a whole, seeing any kind of religion as harmful, and when they make such critism, those on the board who have maintained religious beliefs often point out to them that they need to distinguish between the effects a mainstream religion, and a high control religion has on someone's development.
i've generally found that people who had religious parents, but were raised in 'mainstream' or moderate religions but stopped attending don't hold any grudges or ill thought about the religion they were raised in as children, whereas those i know who were raised in the jehovah's witnesses and left, are usually quite anti-watchtower (myself included!
i thought about this, after a general discussion at work today, when a girl in my office, in her late 20s, and who was recently married made a comment that i found surprising.
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Personal observations Re: former religious members
by Zico init seems to me that many (not all) agnostics/atheists on here, as former jws, seem to grow quite an adversity to religion as a whole, seeing any kind of religion as harmful, and when they make such critism, those on the board who have maintained religious beliefs often point out to them that they need to distinguish between the effects a mainstream religion, and a high control religion has on someone's development.
i've generally found that people who had religious parents, but were raised in 'mainstream' or moderate religions but stopped attending don't hold any grudges or ill thought about the religion they were raised in as children, whereas those i know who were raised in the jehovah's witnesses and left, are usually quite anti-watchtower (myself included!
i thought about this, after a general discussion at work today, when a girl in my office, in her late 20s, and who was recently married made a comment that i found surprising.
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"About thirty people left the witnesses from my KH since I left. I seem to be the only one anti-watchtower."
Interesting. I admit most of the people I know who have left are from here, so that would bias my viewpoint somewhat.
"What happened to the ferret?"
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Personal observations Re: former religious members
by Zico init seems to me that many (not all) agnostics/atheists on here, as former jws, seem to grow quite an adversity to religion as a whole, seeing any kind of religion as harmful, and when they make such critism, those on the board who have maintained religious beliefs often point out to them that they need to distinguish between the effects a mainstream religion, and a high control religion has on someone's development.
i've generally found that people who had religious parents, but were raised in 'mainstream' or moderate religions but stopped attending don't hold any grudges or ill thought about the religion they were raised in as children, whereas those i know who were raised in the jehovah's witnesses and left, are usually quite anti-watchtower (myself included!
i thought about this, after a general discussion at work today, when a girl in my office, in her late 20s, and who was recently married made a comment that i found surprising.
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It seems to me that many (not all) agnostics/atheists on here, as former JWs, seem to grow quite an adversity to religion as a whole, seeing any kind of religion as harmful, and when they make such critism, those on the board who have maintained religious beliefs often point out to them that they need to distinguish between the effects a mainstream religion, and a high control religion has on someone's development.
I've generally found that people who had religious parents, but were raised in 'mainstream' or moderate religions but stopped attending don't hold any grudges or ill thought about the religion they were raised in as children, whereas those I know who were raised in the Jehovah's Witnesses and left, are usually quite anti-Watchtower (Myself included!)
I thought about this, after a general discussion at work today, when a girl in my office, in her late 20s, and who was recently married made a comment that I found surprising. She was raised by parents who were devout members in the Church of England, but stopped attending in her teens and now does not believe in God, but yet, stated that after she has children, she would like to go back to Church, because she feels 'Sunday School' will be helpful in teaching her children good morals, and will provide a simple answer to the question of why their are problems in the world.
This seemed to be accepted as normal, so I asked if people often did this, and was even more surprised to be told they knew of a few parents who did. Of course, my work colleagues are hardly representative of the whole population, or even the UK population, but I still found it interesting.
I'm sure some on here might question the merits of my work colleague's opinion (And I also struggle to see the point) but I found it revealing of the general opinion of non-believers who were raised in mainstream religions, as a contrast to that of former-JWs.
I can't imagine a former-JW turned atheist taking their child to the Kingdom Hall because they thought it would aid their development.
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I Feel Lost
by insearchof ini'm a jw in good standing.i was born a jw.my dad was an elder for about 15 years but he stoped going to the hall about 3 years ago.but i have doubts about the org.basically i don't think that we are living in the end,i don't think the earth will ever be a paradise.it really don't seem logical to me.anyway i feel like i'm having an inner fight between what i was raised to be and what i now believe.the only reason why i still go to the meeting is because of my mom and husband.i came here because i think that everyone here can help me.
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"I came here because I think that everyone here can help me."
You've got that right. :)
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"BEAST that was but is not" Rev 17 original teaching 1930 not UN
by hamsterbait ini am putting this up to show how the current view of the un and its role is merely a replacement of the failed predictions for the hague court prior to 1914, and the league of nations.. "light" in two books, comments by j.f.
rutherford.
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THANK YOU Hamsterbait. I am now intending to use this information in a letter I am writing to some friends who are Jehovah's Witnesses.
Nathan Knorr originally pointed to the UN as the Beast that would rise again, but thought it would be like a World Government with it's own military and strong influence over all nations. This did not materialise, the UN has no real power, but the Society have probably kept to it so they could point to it as a sucessful prophecy in the Revelation Climax book. (Which wasn't that much of a prophecy, as it was being reported in the news) -
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Next big announcement: All Circuirt Overseers Sacked!
by slimboyfat inso what is the ending of the congregation book study really all about?
surely the biggest winner in this new arrangement is the circuit overseer.
now he only has to take two meetings during his visit and will only "work" from thursday to sunday.
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Is it possible they'll introduce a new meeting? Maybe a regular field service practice session.
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Revelation - It's Grand Climax Adjusted
by Jeffro inhaving received a copy of the new watchtower library cd, i decided to do a comparison of what actually changed with the updated revelation book.
i was expecting some significant changes with some 'new light' for the 'trumpet blasts' or other 'important' stuff, but in all, i thought the changes were mostly quite mundane, though some seem a little crafty for different reasons.
any thoughts.... throughout.
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Most significant, I thought, was what they didn't change. They didn't update the interpretation of naos in line with the 2000 (?) new light.
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JW's and divorce...higher or lower than average, or just average?
by gaiagirl indo jw's enjoy more stable, happier marriages as a result of applying "bible principles", or does the stress of toeing the line make their marriages break up more frequently?
or, do they pretty much match the national average?
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I think statistics show they match the average.
A JW told me he overheard a Bethelite tell someone that divorce had now become as common in the Society as in every other group in the world. He was taken aback.
