Posts by DanTheMan

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President Bush and Corporate Responsibility

by invisible in

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friends

of the recent speech given by president bush and corporate responsibility, from the americans in here, how do you see this policy unfolding in the usa?

do you think this is a wise move for your president to be taking, or can you see it opening wide, a flood gate, can of worms so to speak?

what is the general consensus, word on the street about this issue?

DanTheMan

I think (at least I hope) the days of high-flying, ego'd out corporate execs fleecing investors for millions and making out like bandits are waning.

I heard something on the radio the other day about how CEO's in Europe and Japan are not so high-profile and super-paid like they are in America. I guess the "superstar" concept is so deeply ingrained in our culture, that it's gonna take a lot of shocks to the system to bring things back down to earth. I hope there is a baseball strike, that would be another good shock.

Two or three years ago, Jack Welch of GE was the darling of the corporate world, the CEO Supremo. Now I'm not sure if he wasn't pulling some of the same sort of shenanigans that the others have been called on.

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HOT NEWS!! Disfellowshipped?- Top Japanese JW!!

by stevieb1 in

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according to a posting by "ros" on www.channelc.org it is rumoured that the former branch committee co-ordinator of the watchtower society's branch in japan has recently been disfellowshipped.

of course this is hot news!!!

his name is toshio honma and is probably one of the highest ranking jw's in that country.

DanTheMan

ISP,

I didn't read all of your post, but it just cracked me up, seeing all the figures, dates, and statistics from the yearbook. Is there a more narcissistic organization on the earth? The WT is so fascinated with themselves, it is hilarious. The longer I stayed in, the more embarrassed I became of the organization I was a part of.

On a more serious note, I am glad that some of the bros in Japan are seeing the truth about the truth. I hope it doesn't lead to a lot of suicides, considering that suicide doesn't have the same stigma in Asian culture as it does here. I want to send them all copies of Watchman Nee books, so they can get some REAL spiritual food from a REAL Asian Chrisian.

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Why Are Most JW's Former R. Catholics?

by Bhagavad in

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http://www.bible.ca/cath-jw-converting.htm

i just tried my above link and it does not link.

any input?

DanTheMan

When I joined it was partially to punish my Catholic mother. I thought JW's were the polar opposite of the RCC in every way. *sigh* Youthful naivety.

That having been said, I'm thinking about going to Mass sometime. Am I a hopeless case? Let the reader use discernment.

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Is the Watchtower Like Ovaltine?

by metatron in

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i just got back from days of business meetings in which.

every aspect of the company's future is discussed - and.

our reputation among the public analysed.. these days, even local businesses act this way.. now, contrast this with the ham handed, amateurish pr.

DanTheMan

Not that this is brilliant or insightful, but I think as long as Jaracz is the de facto leader of the org, no creativity or meaningful change will come about.

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How many did YOU recruit?

by In_between_days in

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just a quick question, and one that seems to take jehovahs witnesses back a little, an extremely good question to ask a pioneer.

"so, with all your hours of service, how many people have you actually brought into the jehovahs witness organisation?".

um.... genuinely, 100% of my old jw freinds have all been raised in the organisation.

DanTheMan

thankfully nobody that I know of. I dread the moment that I come across a former co-worker from my JW years and they tell me "guess what? I'm a J-dub!" I would die a thousand times.

I hope that my departure got some to think a little, cause a little cognitive dissonance.

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WT Pledge of Allegiance

by DanTheMan in

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ray franz in crisis of conscience writes about how loyalty oaths were briefly considered by the gb and their sycophantic circle of assistants.

with the pledge of allegiance featuring prominently in the news, i have come up with a pledge of allegiance for watchtowerists:.

i pledge allegiance to the watchtower.

DanTheMan

Ray Franz in Crisis of Conscience writes about how loyalty oaths were briefly considered by the GB and their sycophantic circle of assistants. With the Pledge of Allegiance featuring prominently in the news, I have come up with a Pledge of Allegiance for Watchtowerists:

I pledge allegiance to the Watchtower

Bible and Tract Society of New York

And to the Theocracy, over which it rules,

One nation, under guilt

Indescribable

With fear and repression for all

"Preach the gospel at all times. Use words if necessary" - St. Francis of Assisi

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RUSH fans?!

by bad_associashun in

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coming here in concert sept 25- southern cali.

anyone in the area going?.

DanTheMan

I don't care much for Geddy's voice, but Neal Pert...holy cow could that guy drum. "Subdivisions" never ceases to amaze.

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Straw that broke the Camels Back

by Perfection Seeker in

so, whats the straw that broke the camels back in your life?

what was the final last straw that made you say thats it- no more?

i have so many-for 15 years i kept getting that last straw-and trying to ignore it- but i think the last straw was when my dad died- everyone kept (keeps) giving me the line of bs about never seeing him again unless i go to meetings.

DanTheMan

Spider Monkey said:

Gradually I started to, ahem, NOT feel any better, & to realize that this was the case, & finally got to the point of allowing my mind to voice its doubts in sentence form (you know what I mean? rather than just a sick, depressive feeling, I started looking at my feelings & their logical causes).

EXACTLY what I went through. I spent years trying to suppress that sick feeling that you speak of. I felt like such a horrible rotten person for not being so completely sold on Watchtowerism as my fellow Watchtowerists were.

The last straw came during a judicial matter (I was the one being judicialized). I wasn't DF'd, as I was genuinely repentant, but inwardly I was in turmoil and this inner turmoil manifested itself in a poor decision that led to the judicial hearing in the first place. When time for reproof came, one of the inquisitors told me that I was a "spiritual babe". At that point I knew that I was never going to be what this organization defined as a "spiritual" person, a mindless parrot. And I hated that, because I loved God, and I was so tired of their stupidass measuring sticks that they use to gauge your spirituality. I faded a few months after that, the rest is history.

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?s for larc

by CPiolo in

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friends

larc,.

i am curious and was wondering if youd expand on some things youve said.. you have stated that you dont believe the wt organization is a cult: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30908&site=3).

DanTheMan

It's all a matter of semantics. Aren't I a genius for saying that?

I read quite a bit of "Captive Hearts, Captive Minds: Recovery from Cults and Abusive Relationships". While much of what I read in the book was applicable to my WT experience, some of the situations described in the book helped me realize that there are far worse perpetrators of spiritual abuse than the WT. But the WT still sucks completely.

I emailed you larc, did you get it?

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Puzzling new book

by Atreyu in

at this summers district assembly, a new book was released.

worship the only true god.

two chapters puzzles me:

DanTheMan

Just more dumbing things down, I think. They're so arrogant they think they don't need to explain themselves to anybody. "Believe it or be shunned" - those words should be on the front of every one of their stupid pubs.