If I were a JW watching the broadcasts I'd be thoroughly ashamed that these simple minded arseholes are running my religion.
Not only that, but they are the direct channel to god.
It's so laughable. Really.
Wakey, wakey jw's.
jambon1
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Stephen Lett: Crazy Old Kook or Just Really Bad Actor?
by Wild_Thing inso, i am reposting this video from wifibandit's thread since it is a bit off topic.
i watched this video and i have to say that this guy really creeps me out.
his slow and methodical gestures coupled with with his over-annuciation of every word makes him appear absolutely crazy!.
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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jambon1
Like I say, I find the most galling thing the inability of my wife to consider the objections of her husband of 20 years.
Take for example disfellowshipping. I have repeatedly explained to her that you cannot decide on the rightness of something based on a one sided story. We all know the society's take on disfellowshipping - it's loving, it takes faith, people thank you in the end for the shunning.
I really wanted my wife to read some accounts of those who were really negatively affected by it. The other side of it. The suicides, the depression, the feeling of social exclusion. She simply wouldn't do it.
That was only one area that I had massive reservations about. There were plenty more.
To give up on your marriage without even making an effort to see the other side of the story is absolutely astonishing to me.
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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jambon1
Thank you for your comforting remarks.
Essentially, this talk given at a convention a couple of years ago sums it all up.
What is sinister about it is the manner in which they seem to take pride in it all. Absolutely no shame or sorrow over what they do to families the world over.
As it stands, I feel so angry that some sort of retribution seems appropriate. I worry for what I'm capable of as I feel so frustrated and angry right now. But I'll not.
I feel completely shafted by this religion.
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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jambon1
My kids are 5, 11 & 13. My youngest two I've banned from attending. My eldest, my daughter, goes along but isn't entirely immersed in the JW lifestyle. I still feel I have plenty of scope for influencing her.
What could I have done differently? Well, that's a hard one.
I couldn't bear the divide in my marriage any longer. My wife refused over a period of ten years to look into one single issue that I had investigated and found to be corrupt, untrue or morally wrong. Not one thing. I found that very difficult to accept. I always thought that she might have a 'lighbulb moment' over matters like disfellowshipping or blood as she is devoted to her children. I always held a bit of hope that she would perhaps mentally leave the religion one day. I was wrong.
As a married couple we were miles apart. Completely divided by our world view and the future goals we wanted for our children. How can one proceed in a marriage like that?
To my wife's own admission, even on a text message yesterday, she 'couldn't have asked for a better husband.' I worked hard and supported my family in every way possible. I was a bloody good dad. My only regret is that I eventually found my wife's depression very difficult to handle. But in spite of that, for ten years, through all the division I tried to make it work.
I noticed that I posted this 8 months ago and similar posts in the past.
The writting has been on the wall for years, sadly. It's incredibly sad.
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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jambon1
After leaving the organisation 10 years ago I fought with everything I had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
After a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
The religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family. My wife's unswerving loyalty to the organisation, without caring to investigate even one of my concerns took its toll and now I'm left with nothing. My wife is a loving, caring, woman. Things could've been so different for us.
Well done the JW religion! You have accomplished the division that your holy book brags about.
Now I must rebuild my life.
Disgusting.
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Did you piss on their parade? Christmas?
by jambon1 inwhen you were a jw and someone mentioned 'have a nice christmas' or 'have a nice holiday' did you just say 'thanks, enjoy it yourself' or did you piss all over their good mood and bore them to death about why you don't celebrate it?.
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jambon1
When you were a JW and someone mentioned 'have a nice Christmas' or 'have a nice holiday' did you just say 'thanks, enjoy it yourself' or did you piss all over their good mood and bore them to death about why you don't celebrate it?
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TV.JW.ORG is HERE!
by Splash inhttp://tv.jw.org/ is up and running.. see bro lett stumble his way through the introduction.
he really does have a good face for radio.. http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodmonthlyprogramming/pub-jwb_e_201410_1_video.
nice sweaty top lip at 15 mins onwards - the pressure is showing!!.
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jambon1
Absolute fucking psychopaths.
This is will be used to instill yet more fear into kids. Already, the video about the kid starting high school - everyone who goes to high school will run into trouble with bullies etc. WRONG!
My kid started a couple of months ago and loves it. No problems at all.
The presenter is completly fucking crackers too. Is this really a GB member?
They're batshit crazy. But they will lap it up as they do with everything.
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The conflict of living in a divided home is finally getting to me - 8 years later - advice please
by jambon1 into cut my long story short, having left the religion in 2006, my marriage with 2 young kids involved went through a fairly difficult time.
for a few years.
as i rebelled against the belief system i was astonished that having pointed out reasonable & logical objections, my wife just stood by the religion.
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jambon1
To cut my long story short, having left the religion in 2006, my marriage with 2 young kids involved went through a fairly difficult time. For a few years. As I rebelled against the belief system I was astonished that having pointed out reasonable & logical objections, my wife just stood by the religion. It even got to the point where she agreed that the beliefs had damaged my daughters view of me (she had a meldown at one point about me dying at armageddon), yet she stood by, still willing to take our kids along to be exposed to the damage.
After I banned the kids from going for a while, I mellowed. I was done with fighting. Done with the idea of ever breaking up our family. I became the 'resonable' unbelieving mate. Even went to a few JW partys etc. Had a small degree of contact with my wifes friends, all the while keeping my strong objections to the religion.
A number of years have passed by & we have discussed very little of my wifes religion. We reached a point of mutual respect which went well. I had came to a point where I could reasonably appreciate WHY my wife believes what she does, despite not accepting it myself.
But I find that every so often it rears it's head. The reason I think this happens is that sub consciously, you are never really accepeted for what you are. My wife is always hoping that I'll return. In addition, you are married to a woman who believes that you are worthy of being put to death by god. I find this plays on my mind often. Especially given the fact that I am a very hard working dad in my job and at home. At one time I did practically everything in the house due to my wifes depression. This despite the fact that any energy she could muster at the time got spent on the religion. Not the house, not the marriage etc, etc. I have been loyal & faithful to my wife also since the time I've left the religion.
I also feel that my wifes depression is in part caused by being part of such a negative religion with a twisted & completely unreaslitic world view. Of course, she denys this.
Discussing matters like this is incredibly difficult. She just can't see my problems with things such as the insane & illogical bible accounts, disfellowshipping, blood policy, etc, etc. I begged her the other day to think for herself. But the blinkers come down. Absolute 100% loyalty to the religion.
We have three kids. I have never wanted to break up our family but I'm spending my life with this situation & to me it's BIG. It's something that's always there. Always in the background. Two marriage mates going in opposite directions in life. And life & time is passing.
Has anyone else been in this sitiuation? Thoughts?
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After leaving did the feeling go away?
by committeechairman inthe feeling that you're never good enough.
the feeling that you're wicked and evil.. .
because i'd give anything not to feel this way.
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jambon1
I've mentioned this before on here.
When I left, I was a loving dad to two great kids. I had a succesful small business which I worked hard to build up. I was popular and trustworthy. All things which should leave you feeling good about yourself. Fulfilled.
Yet, I felt like absolute shit due to the constant drip feeding of negativity at the hall.
Upon leaving, those feelings just evaporated & I had a lovely new feeling of self worth.
My JW wife has low confidence & suffers from depression. I put a lot of that down to her involvement with witnesses & the teachings.
Whenever I see jehovahs witnesses, they're all the same. Downbeat, depressed & miserable.
Get out. Get your life back.
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Any strategies to deal with elders who just don't like you?
by toto555 inso any ways to deal or cope with elders who just don't like you (you didn't do anything wrong or they're just making stuff up about you) assuming that you can't leave?
especially when it comes to for example becoming appointed as an elder.
or are you pretty much "dead in the water" if the elders are determined to like you despite reasonable efforts to win them over.
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jambon1
Tell them to **** right off.