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  Have You Given Up on JW Friends or Family Ever Seeing The Light And Getting Out?

  by minimus in

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  i'm always hopeful but mostly doubtful that they will get out of her..

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  Pretty much, yes.

  On the one hand it gives them something. On the other, I believe it affects people really badly (depression, negative outlook, reducing ones chances in employment).

  I have found ways to cope with the situation.
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  British zone visit from David Splane - a report from the special meeting in Glasgow

  by slimboyfat in

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  well i went to a "special meeting" in the armadillo today where a 2 & 1/2 hour programme was relayed from london at 1pm.

  apparently the letters of invitation only went out a month or so ago and not all congregations were invited.

  there were 2,900 of us from around scotland.

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  It's really good that the brothers saw fit to have the conventions from this summer onward in Glasgow. An absolute shithole of a place where no-one wants to live, never mind visit. Pulling every JW in Scotland to the most hostile & 'uncentral' place in the country.

  I guess it just suits the brothers who organise these events.
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  Your own mortality, how do you cope with it?

  by CookieMonster in

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  i've been a lurker here and an inactive jw for a number of years.

  i've always had some annoying doubts but brushed it aside but over the last few years i've had time to "think" away from the wt.

  perhaps there is no paradise, maybe no god and this life is all there is.

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  I make each day count, now.
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  Bethel Brother's explanation to young mother as to WHY God would destroy children at armegeddon

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. experiences

  back when we were still active in the cong.

  we became friends with a young couple with 2 small kids.

  they were newly baptized and wanting a better future for their kids.

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  It's insanity to reconcile in your mind that babies and children deserve to die at god's behest.

  Once you accept that belief, I believe that your mind is seared, damged. You'll take on the rest of their shit without even thinking much about it.

  Once you strip back the panda leaflets portraying peace and love, they are a hateful bunch of morons who are so entirely self absorbed that they actually believe stuff that would make the average persons head turn 360 degrees on it's axis.

  Some of the most emotive arguments I haved had with my wife have taken place when I get her to consider the wrongness of believing that babies and children, in fact, anyone deserves to die at god's hands. Once, she actually said to me "well, everyone's going to die at some point anyway".

  How do you reply to that?

  One experience I have related on here before is when and elder once told a big group of us that he wants to "see" the people die at Armageddon.

  Mentaly ill fuck ups.
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  Are there any good interviews/discussions that I can dowload to my iphone?

  by jambon1 in

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  i'm not very techi.. any help?.

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  jambon1

  I'm not very techi.

  Any help?
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  Memorial Hell

  by thecrushed in

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  2. friends

  today has been one of the most aganizing days since i woke up.

  my family has been pressuring me to show up at the memorial for the past week.

  it became very intense today with my dad texting me constantly to get me to confirm and when i didn't answer he would call my wife and then she would constantly nag me to answer my dad and so on and so forth.

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  Hi

  I can completely feel your relief and the feeling of freedom you gained by making a stand.

  I've been there, felt it. Cherish it because it's what we had sacrificed for years & years and is the main reason that I'll never return.

  The guilting? Well, get used to it. I still get comments & remarks from my wife & friends after seven years. But, on the occasions that I fight them or take them up on a point then things get all out of control & angry on their part. The shutters come down and they cry persecution or abuse.

  You know what is the most frustrating thing about having loved ones in the org? It's when you present the most calm, reasoned, well thought out argument against say, disfellowshipping. You give accounts of what it's like from the other side, how it makes people feel worthless, unloved, depressed. How it's not a punishment that is fitting any crime (apart from perhaps pedophilia). That people kill themselves after weeks & months of shunning. And then your loved one just looks at you and carrys on regardless. Even calling you 'blinded by the devil'. That's fucking hard.

  My life at the moment isn't great due to having kids who are now actively involved in the organisation. And a wife who doesn't cope with oposition or critiscism of the organisation. I don't know where to turn or what to do for the best.

  It's shit.
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  Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi folks.

  that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.

  the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .

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  How embarrassing for them & their god.
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  What Would The Rank and File Do If The Governing Body Went To Jail Over Criminal Activity With Reguards To Failure To Alert Parisheners Of Child Molesters In Their Congregation?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. child-abuse

  i think it a very real possiblity:.

  http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/07/local/la-me-church-files-20130108.

  judge orders archdiocese to restore names in abuse filesthe public's right to know how the church handled molestation allegations outweighs officials' privacy rights, court rules.q: haven't several states extended the statutes of limitation in response to the abuse scandal?.

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  I once knew a brother who said that if the entire governing body were found to be paedophiles he'd still be 'serving Jehovah at the KH'.

  Me and this other guy who is still a very active JW, looked at each other with that "WTF?" look on our faces.

  I should have known then what a fight I'd have to free my family from this shit.

  Completely delusional to the point of embarrassing.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Shunning at it's very best! SHOCKING Jw.Org

  by BlindersOff1 in

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  2. beliefs

  found this on youtube fyi.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw8yu-r8g-8.

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  Bastards.

  Absolute bastards.
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  THE FINAL VERDICT IS DELIVERED!!!

  by Hobo Ken in

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  2. friends

  this is the final of my series of podcasts in which the 3 circuit overseers decide my fate as a jehovah's witness.. my blog- deathorobedience.blogspot.com.

  podcast 12 the final verdict- play the audio.

  also available free on itunes (just search on itunes).. .

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  Hi

  I'd be very interested to hear this podcast but it won't download to my iphone. I realise that this is 3 years old now.

  Is there any way to get it to work now or have it emailed?

  Please?