This is my point over & over again.
Why do they get away with this abuse of childrens minds?
jambon1
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The old big orange "Paradise" book
by aquagirl inanyone remember that?
i learned to read on that book.there were some very disturbing images,like the earth opening up and people falling into it.like upside down ladies and hippies.id love to get a hold of one and peruse it with a friend and some herbal medicine.maybe there is one in the attic?anyway,that and the image of the snake talking to the beautiful,bare shouldered eve,who was holding an apple,made a big impression on me.any else have any faves from that book?is it still being used?.
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Loving your beutiful children
by jambon1 ini had little or no problems with my beliefs as an 18 year old convert to the jehovah's witness religion.
fair enough, there were a few things that i found a bit wacky & odd, but i was on the road to life.
i couldn't give a rats arse about many things.
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jambon1
I had little or no problems with my beliefs as an 18 year old convert to the Jehovah's Witness religion. Fair enough, there were a few things that I found a bit wacky & odd, but I was on the road to life. I couldn't give a rats arse about many things. I had found the truth & I was working my way up the JW ladder of approval & appearance.
I was a silly little boy really. Little experience of life. And cockey and arrogant. How I cringe when I look back at my younger years. Always ready to give an opinion on things that I knew nothing about.
After a number of years of adult life, my JW beliefs had come to be rather fractious to me. Many things just didn't sit right. I suppose life was teaching me lessons & I became conflicted as I tried to reconcile what I was seeing in the real world with my what I was being taught at the Kingdom Hall.
Then - BOOM! I had my firstborn baby girl. What a prize! I always remember looking at her after she had been bathed the next day. I looked into her eyes & saw such beuty. Such vulnerability. I was in love. My life now revolved around this wonderful little girl.
The truth is that I realised there & then that I would do anything for my girl. No man, religion or book was going to be able to overpower or supress my natural inclination to love, protect & admire this offspring of mine. I knew that the love that was supposed to be due to god came nowhere near what I felt for my daughter. I was living on borrowed time, in terms of my lifespan as a Jehovahs Witness.
Around about 2002, an elder asked my if I could read from the platform a KM article. I agreed, not recalling what article it actually was. Upon looking at it, I realised that I had agreed to read the 'shunning of disfellowshiped relatives' article. I had already mentally scanned it & it made me feel uncomfortable to say the least.
The words in that article are callous, brutal & devoid of any hint of natural affection. I remember reading it on the platform & sitting down to digest what I had read as the meeting proceeded around me. I looked up to my baby girl & knew that under no circumstances could I ever shun her in her teenage or adult life for sins of the flesh or other silly 'crimes' that are deemed so by the WTS.
How can any loving parent shun their own flesh & blood?
My life as a JW was over there and then. For a further 4 years after reading that shit I simply went through the motions of being a JW. My emotions were torn between what I naturally felt as a parent & what I was being taught at the Kingdom Hall. Conflict, conflict, conflict. All the way. It was a terrible time.
I look at my children thesedays (I had a son in 2004) & sometimes I just simply watch them & listen to them. I don't have to say anything. They just talk. I love them so much that when I hear them talk & listen to their beutiful expressions I can many times feel tears well up in my eyes - just because I love them so much that it overwhelms me.
JW parents who carry out the WTS instruction to shun their children are beyond my understanding. How can they do this? Are they sub-human? It turns my stomach to think about how it must feel for a child (of any age) to be rejected by their parents. What good can possibly come from such action?
Jehovahs Witnesses can be lovely, nice, smiling people. I meet them all the time. Yet, their actions disgust me. They anger me. And they cause damage that is in many cases beyond repair.
Shame on anyone who supports or in any way endorse this disgusting doctrine.
Love your beutiful children.
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I saw the Queen today - well sort of
by Lady Lee inmy camera got to see her - the back of her.
too many people for me to get through with the wheelchair.
i stood up held my camera in the air and clicked in the direction i hoped she was in.
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jambon1
Princess Anne walked past me in a narrow street in Edinburgh once.
She looks like a horse.
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Has your " Self Esteem " Improved After Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses ?
by flipper init seems to be an issue that some have after leaving the witness cult because none of us were ever made to feel we were " good " enough or "valued " enough for what we were trying to accomplish in the cult.
growing up i had pounded into my head by my jw elder father what jesus said, " after doing all things remember you are good for nothing slaves , what we have done is what we ought to have done.
" then i thought to myself - " where's the joy in that ?
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jambon1
Good topic.
Yes, very much so.
I viewed myself very negatively due to the constand bombardment of 'nothings ever good enough'. In actual fact, I was a very good dad with a decent honest business & a lovely wife. Lots of positive things in my life. Yet I was constantly down on myself & rather depressed.
Very much changed days now though. The mental conditioning is gone forever. And I'll not let what happened to me happen to my children.
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The Jehovahs Witness family weekend
by jambon1 inhaving been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.
my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.
i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.
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jambon1
I don't mean to be out of order here but can everyone just ignore the attention seeking poster and let the thread die.
The on topic comments have been excellent. Thanks.
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The Jehovahs Witness family weekend
by jambon1 inhaving been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.
my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.
i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.
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jambon1
Thanks for the input guys. I'm sure that many of us felt the same way when we were witnesses. If people like that sort of life then no doubt they will continue to be witnesses. I just detected that so many JW's were absolutely fed up individuals. Fed up of an extreemly taxing routine while at the same time being kicked in the balls every time you went to the meeting for not doing enough. Crazy.
I encourage everyone to cherish their kids & spend as many fun times with them as possible. They're no kids for long!
PS - Besty - HHGH
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The Jehovahs Witness family weekend
by jambon1 inhaving been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.
my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.
i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.
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jambon1
I do try to give my children the happiest of memories.
In no way is it easy. Everyone has it tough I believe. I have a million concerns for my kids & our future.
But I'll tell you this; I'll make my kids childhood a childhood. They won't sit through degrading porno Watchtowers on a Sunday morning. They will have no worries about life or death. They won't worry about grandad or granny who isn't a JW. Or daddy who stopped coming to have his ass grilled at the kingdom hall.
They will splash about on the beach. They will love going to the football & being with their grandad. I will love & kiss my kids no matter what they are or what they become.
Please, for the love of god, let your kids be kids.
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The Jehovahs Witness family weekend
by jambon1 inhaving been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.
my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.
i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.
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jambon1
Having been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a JW, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were JW's.
The weekends are vital for us just now. My wife doesn't work but I work full time from very early in the morning. I don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week. When I get home I have a bit time to spend with my wife or doing other chores around the house & then the kids roll in from school. Homework, dinner, bath time, next days lunch making, grass cutting, plant watering, & it's bed time again.
Friday-Sunday is such a welcome change from that. Don't get me wrong, I love my work & I love our Mon-Fri routine. But it is taxing. It's tiring.
Friday is a fun day. We stay up late & have chocolate fondue. We lie in for a while on a Saturday and I enjoy morning cuddles from my wee kids. I cook breakfast & then we go out for the day which is lovely in this warm sunny Scottish weather . On a Saturday night I feel no pressure to be in bed early so we have some drinks & treat the kids to a late night & some TV.
On a Sunday we have a nice relaxing day & we treat our kids if we can afford it. In the morning they like to watch cartoons.
When we were witnesses, a Friday was so utterly depressing. Knowing that we would have to haul our ass around the doors with 2 small infants who were just wanting to run around mad but were trussed up in f***ing dresses & suits. At 3 years old! Even worse, you would have to validate your families spirituality by making sure that the kids would do a presentation or something at the arrangement. At 3 years old!
The rest of the day was spent in the shadow of the upcoming early rise of Sunday morning to once again get trussed up like a turkey & head off to the Kingdom grill to have your sorry ass exposed as a shithouse of a christian who needed to do more, more, more! And hell mind you if the entire families Watchtowers hadn't been studied & marked up! Sitting all shy, not wanting to answer so that the microphone prince wouldn't see that you hadn't bothered your arse to study the healing words of mother!
If you were a real sluggard then you would leave the hall without going out on 'the work' because your kids are tired already & also hungry. How you would punish yourself on the way home as a useless shithouse of a family head because you wanted to eat your lunch in relative freedom, outwith the judgemental eye of your fellow miserable sunday ministry arrangement-goers. Even worse you might want to spend the rest of sunday in some sort of sinful 'recreation' such as sandcastle making with your kids on the local beach.
How times have changed for me. I love my weekends now & I truely make 'each day count'.
I love my life now & I can clearly see that my kids are happy too.
Jehovah's Witnesses deprive children of a proper childhood in my opinion. It's criminal.
When your children are all grown up, that time is gone. Lost forever.
Jehovah's Witnesses - Do you make 'each day count' for you and your family?
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Audio: Generation teaching as explained at the San Diego District Convention 05-30-2010
by kurtbethel inthis is an excerpt from the final talk of the day, "remain in the secret place of the most high".
i looked around as this explanation was being offered up, and the looks on the faces of people there was mostly disinterest.
this is a very convoluted explanation that reminds me of someone running a con and trying to cobble together an explanation to deal with legitimate objections to their false claims.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/dodp4w.
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jambon1
I've heard some amount of shit in my life, but this just about takes the biscuit.
As I said on another thread, anyone who has half a brain can see that they have absolutely changed the meaning of how every living person understands the term 'generation'. It really is astounding.
To be quite honest, if individual JW's cannot see that the society is taking the complete & utter piss, well, I guess they deserve each other.
Shocking stuff really.
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July 15th WT Study Article - Generation PR Fallout to Keep JW's Alert !
by flipper inafter perusing through this article sent to us by our lurking jw friend- that's what i took away from this study article entitled " what jehovah's day will reveal " .
this article was printed to keep jw's alert to the alleged urgency of the times - just in case some get puzzled by the new extended overlapping generation theory and lose their sense of urgency.
i think the wt society is covering their backside here , doing possible damage control , and are very nervous about negative fallout in regards to how some jw's may respond to this extended " overlapping generation " theory being pushed.
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jambon1
Thanks for the bump. Missed this yesterday.
I find it incredible that the WTS has the audacity to talk about 'worldy' people being willing to kill each other. Most 'worldly' people I know are repulsed by the idea of murder. The witnesses on the other hand have been drouling at the mouth for years at the prospect of 6 billion people being wiped out. Even publishing pictures of such things in books designed for children.