Good text,
Gopher, good reasoning.
Brant
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this is a day text i can agree with in principle.. .
Good text,
Gopher, good reasoning.
Brant
over the past few days... someone who i'm no longer associated with has been out on vendetta to discredit me.
it started with a mass mail to my myspace friends, which caused nothing more than a few eyebrows to be raised.
that was the reaction of people who know me in real life.
No finallly free it does not seem important, unless you own a business. Some big time mistakes were made here. Consider a vet taking care of your bird stating he was a vet connected with such and such.....came in and did wing clipping if allowed by you., and then you find out he wasn't connected to any business and you paid money to have that done! Then your poor bird gets ill.
Here's the deal, unless any of you have to insure a business and maintain a reputation, Richies antics may not seem important but they are.
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Nothing like trying someone in the court of public opinion.
I wonder why disputes like this could not be handled privately.
I guess if you feel injured, its good to injure him back.
Is it naive to think there should be more of a sense of love and brotherhood among us?
Brant
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this is a day text i can agree with in principle.. .
Gary,
Spit it out.
Brant
over the past few days... someone who i'm no longer associated with has been out on vendetta to discredit me.
it started with a mass mail to my myspace friends, which caused nothing more than a few eyebrows to be raised.
that was the reaction of people who know me in real life.
Richie--
I am an old man, and although you have been cutting edge, (tattoos, a little wild, etc.) I have always admired your strength of character.
I would wish that this board would go easier on people. Its not like we have all the facts when we (as a group) begin to dismantle the character of our fellow posters. In a way we are a bunch of renegades. But, I wish we could be "NICE" renegades.
Again Richie--keep on keepin' on.
Brant
so let switch gears an be positive.
let's talk about me.
list one thing you like about me... be nice.
For an apostate, you don't stink too bad.
Brant
tws= theocratic warfare strategy.
jehovahs witnesses are taught that it is ok to lie, if it in someway helps to support their organization, or helps to deflect criticism of it.. .
jehovah's witnesses are known to give appearances that they are normal, just like the average american.
I don't care a whit about Romney, its just that I hate to see a man stupid enough not to leave a cult be the president of the u.s..
May he be eaten by the 'white salamanders'.
Brant
watchtower november 15, 1962 ("subjection to 'superior authorities'why?
") p. 688 pars.
32 under startling symbols the last book of the bible has foretold the national groups or associations that are to exist during this time of the end from 1914 onward; for example, the devils visible earthly organization, also the british-american dual world power, and the league of nations and the united nations.(rev.
Good points!
They VOLUNTARILY BECAME PARTNERS.
AND
THEY VOLUNTARILY LENT THEMSELVES TO THE PROPAGANDA ARM
OF A BEASTLY, EARTHLY, MILITARISTIC MAN MADE ORGANIZATION THAT THEY HAD CONDEMNED FOR 50+ F---ING YEARS.
I WENT TO PRISON INSTEAD OF COLLEGE TO BE OBEDIENT TO THESE HYPOCRITES!
In my life, at least, although not in any of yours, this GOVERNING BODY, (a term not found in the Bible) is the personification of evil. They disfellowshipped me for THEIR HYPOCRITICAL SIN.
I don't forgive them.
If God is using them as his mouthpiece he is pretty hard up.
Brant
a brother from the 1st ministerial training school in australia, quit his missionary assignment in asia.
the society had to send him in as an english teacher otherwise missionaries are not given visa's.
so on assignment he had to teach english part-time for a small wage.
Dare I break the tradition?
Me thinks, DITTO!
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tws= theocratic warfare strategy.
jehovahs witnesses are taught that it is ok to lie, if it in someway helps to support their organization, or helps to deflect criticism of it.. .
jehovah's witnesses are known to give appearances that they are normal, just like the average american.
qcmbr--
I was a good friend of a Mormon family when I was first attending meetings of JW's in Prescott, Arizona. (1961)
I did get a pretty good pitch of Mormon doctrine and teachings for several months. I always noted the difference between the two, Mormons had a gym for the kids and games and a real good youth program, while at the jw's wouldn't even have a park bence for a lunch break at the KH.
I have met nice mormons, but one of the lyingest, cheatingist people that I know is a mormon elder in Draper Utah.
I have read a large part of the book of mormon, and at one time I could use it in service to disprove the claim that the mormons made tha the BM does not contradict the Bible.
Thats about all I know.
Brant
hello everyone, i am new here and newly freed from the snare of wtbs.
my sister, also newly freed, said our mom told her at the annual meeting there was a new "understanding" on the generation confusion.
it is now the annointed that will not pass away.. has anyone else heard this?
So, Watchtower can flip-flop all it likes - but one day a flip will be a flop too much and the membership will finally wake up.
Ian
Ian,
It would be nice if that were true, and I am sure it is in a few cases.
I myself in the 70's said that if they ever altered the teaching on 1914 that I would leave. By the change in 95 on the 'generation' they did just that. It still took the UN deal for me to leave, but I do remember the day that I got that 95 WT and read the generation change. I was so mad I couldn't see straight. I was cussing and carrying on, boy was I pissed.
The hold they had on us and still have on others seems in most cases to supercede logic. Most witnesses are so dissonant that they have successfully separated their lives and views from the company line, and just the other day one of them told me, "If I don't agree with a teaching, I just reject it. No one is going to tell me what to believe". Yet that person is still fully ensconced in the jw ideology, thinking she is a free spirit.
I have a son that is at least an MS, (he won't talk to us anymore) and he damn well knows all of these bullshit changes and yet, chooses them over us.
The jw mindset is hard to penetrate.
May God bless all who leave.
Brant