Ritual Fire Dance is a great one too.
Forget who did it.
U
since modern music keeps coming up, we need to address the classical!
what are your favorite pieces and the artists?
if you play an instrument, pick the piece that's your favorite to play or you wish you could play.. r.. my favorite is fantasy impromtu by chopin.
Ritual Fire Dance is a great one too.
Forget who did it.
U
since modern music keeps coming up, we need to address the classical!
what are your favorite pieces and the artists?
if you play an instrument, pick the piece that's your favorite to play or you wish you could play.. r.. my favorite is fantasy impromtu by chopin.
Rhapsody in Blue is one of my two,
The other is Walter Carlos as Switched on Bach playing the Brandenburg Concerto's.
Brant
well i just got the new kingdom ministry for december and it has the publisher peak for august: 129,482!.
that is quite an amazing total when you compare it to the trend of recent years:.
2006 - 129,482. i wish i could produce a graph, but you get the picture - there has been a dramatic increase in the publisher peak number this year compared with the recent downward trend after the 1995 "generation" change and subsequent stagnation.
I appropriately hate the WT as much as the next guy, but it is not dishonest to count one publisher two, three or more times even when they turn their time in sporadically. It is the average publishers for the year that they are showing.
The secretaries that have stated that are right. It is the way we were trained.
One idea though that might account for the increase other than immigration, is possibly the CO's are under pressure to get the cong secty to get ALL the reports he possibly can. That could explain a small spike.
Sadly, though, I think they (the WT) are going to do fine without us. There's a sucker born every minute, and the places they look for suckers is amongst the lonely and disinherited. They will come in and put in a few years then leave like the rest of us. Pretty soon there will be 10 million witnesses and 20 million that have quit.
Personally, I wish they would implode.
Brant
in the january 1 2007 wt, there is the following quote in one of the articles regarding the "first resurrection" (there are a few other posts on that article already):.
it seems that resurrected ones of the 24 elders group may be involved in communicating of divine truths today.. this may be the most significant sentence in the article (haven't read it in its entirety yet).
i don't recall seeing anything like it in print before.. seems to be laying the groundwork for a "flash of new light", to be exposed probably whenever the last of the 3 old-timers hanging on (barr, barber, jaracz) drop off:.
yadda-------
KISS THE SOCIETY LEST THE GOVERNING BODY BE ANGRY AND YE BE DISFELLOWSHIPPED FROM THE WAY. HAPPY ARE ALL THEY THAT PUT THEIR TRUST IN THE GOVERNING BODY TODAY!!!!
Beautiful song. so true.
Brant
in the january 1 2007 wt, there is the following quote in one of the articles regarding the "first resurrection" (there are a few other posts on that article already):.
it seems that resurrected ones of the 24 elders group may be involved in communicating of divine truths today.. this may be the most significant sentence in the article (haven't read it in its entirety yet).
i don't recall seeing anything like it in print before.. seems to be laying the groundwork for a "flash of new light", to be exposed probably whenever the last of the 3 old-timers hanging on (barr, barber, jaracz) drop off:.
To think; less than 2% of the count of "anointed" are at Bethel and how many of them are GB, that means the body of Christ is in the field, how much input do they have when it comes to prophesy and doctrine? I'll tell you...none. I have known of anointed that have gone to Bethel with "light" and not made it past the receptionist. The GB says that the other sheep can be used by the spirit to write the WT, well a jackass was used in the Bible to direct the prophet Balam, so I guess todays prophet is talking out its ass too.
Lesterd-----Your statement is so true. It certainly highlights the MYTH OF THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE. That is a total bucket of trash. If they believed that they would be in contact with all whom they could, and the WT would have articles encouraging these people to identify themselves.
Now, if they did that, I'll betcha that about 3-6 million would partake at the next memorial, to use the term loosely.
Brant
in the january 1 2007 wt, there is the following quote in one of the articles regarding the "first resurrection" (there are a few other posts on that article already):.
it seems that resurrected ones of the 24 elders group may be involved in communicating of divine truths today.. this may be the most significant sentence in the article (haven't read it in its entirety yet).
i don't recall seeing anything like it in print before.. seems to be laying the groundwork for a "flash of new light", to be exposed probably whenever the last of the 3 old-timers hanging on (barr, barber, jaracz) drop off:.
This is taken right from the Revelation Climax book:
*** re chap. 20p. 125 A Multitudinous Great Crowd*** The Great Crowd Makes Its Appearance 17 From the time of the apostle John and on into the Lord’s day, anointed Christians were puzzled as to the identity of the great crowd. It is fitting, then, that one of the 24 elders, representing anointed ones already in heaven, should stir John’s thinking by raising a pertinent question. "And in response one of the elders said to me: ‘These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from? ’So right away I said to him: ‘My lord, you are the one that knows.’" (Revelation 7:13,14a) Yes, that elder could locate the answer and give it to John. This suggests that resurrected ones of the 24-elders group may be involved in the communicating of divine truths today.
Someone is all screwed up. Either the "governing body" needs to clean out their ears, or the resurrected ones need to quit telling them false prophecies.
This is nothing but spiritism. NOTHING.
I can't believe that I actually probably conducted that study in the REV book and didn't catch that point. What a turd'head I was!
So good to be gone.
Brant
yesterday, wanderer suggested that we use our numbers on this db to accomplish something.
my question, hopefully will get the attention of scully, blondie leolaia and others with the supreme intelligence around here.
is there any way to pick a winable cause and unite together financially to make life difficult for the watchtower?.
Yesterday, Wanderer suggested that we use our numbers on this DB to accomplish something.
My question, hopefully will get the attention of Scully, Blondie Leolaia and others with the supreme intelligence around here.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO PICK A WINABLE CAUSE AND UNITE TOGETHER FINANCIALLY TO MAKE LIFE DIFFICULT FOR THE WATCHTOWER?
The following is a quote from a young girl (Renee--MY STORY) that was posted a couple of days ago.
It infuriates me that a NON-PROFIT organization would go to some poor kid and demand a refund on the money that they spent on the repair of her grandma's house, and then disfellowship her for a 7 year old accustation.
With the kind of reasoning that they used on her, I would be in line for a refund of 10's of thousands of dollars over the last 45 years of donations, quick-builds,. etc.
I cried. I had no idea what to do. My father came to tell me goodbye. My mother came to tell me goodbye. I called many of those I knew who were former Jehovah’s Witnesses and now Christians. They helped me to make a decision about what to do. I remember Frankie telling me that I had to make a decision. I had to stand for Jesus and make a decision to follow him and depend on him or else to give in to the Witnesses. I followed her advice. I prayed to receive Christ into my life and I decided what I had to do. That was the moment that my life began to transform.I walked into the room of the judicial committee. They asked me to describe the details of the sin to them. I told them that God had already forgiven me seven years prior and I did not have to justify myself to them. I added that I no longer wished to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. They asked me to leave the room so they could talk. I waited. When it was time, they called me back. They said that they wanted me to make a donation for $1282.00 for some work they had “volunteered” to do after the Katrina disaster to my great grandmother’s house in which I was livng. For some reason I gave them the money. They asked me to sign a piece of paper saying that I no longer wished to be one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It was over.
When I read something like this, I want to go get a lawyer and sue these guys for that kind of crap.
CAN WE?
Someone with some brains get back to me.
Brant
i also believe in santa clause and that david beckham has a phd.
seriously though, i have only been here a short while but it has been more than enough to convince me to hand in my resignation.
i have telephoned our sec, and told him that i am stepping down.
Jwfreak,
Welcome.
You did the right thing. I went through the same mess in 2000, finally made an issue with the WT over the UN in 2005 and 6, and was disfellowshipped last may.
It is good to have the release from their clutches. I was a witness for 45 years, an elder for 30. I am 60 and happier than ever that I made that step.
Best to you!
Brant
thought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
According to Richard Adams--"A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe,"
the ANSWER TO GOD, THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE--------------------------------42
Uninformed
walking down memory lane: 124 columbia heights,.
many thoughts and experiences related to life at bethel come flooding in, especially here at jwd, where your questions and answers jog my memory.
some of the following i've already mentioned elsewhere, some comments are new.
My wife and I met Brother Nathan Knorr one time.
In 1969 at the Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City version of the round the world international assemblies, he conducted the Gilead Meeting.
Since my sweetie and I wanted to save the world at the time and were pioneers, we went to the meeting. During his brief discourse, he noticed some poor sap holding a microphone attached to a tape recorder. You wouldn't believe his reaction------------don't remember it all, but it went like this, "What do you think you are doing? Are you going to broadcast this meeting around the world? Either put that thing away or leave!"
I am not embellishing, this is not quite as shocking as it was in person.
From that time forward, I did not respect him ever again.
Pompous son of a bitch! Prick, bastard. Sure reminded me of Christ Jesus! NOT!!!
Why didn't I quit then? Stupid I guess.
Brant