i wonder if the limey liberals are as hypocritical as our home=grown american ones?
these guys change positions more than the watchtower writing staff!
the hypocrisy of democrats .
Shining One,
Loved your post. Liberals really bother me.
Any party that bases its entire platform on a mother's RIGHT to kill a fetus, offspring, baby, whatever, is a sick party.
They are almost as bad as the leadership of the WT Society.
Brant Jones
i've been working at the same hospital since 1991. a jw chick is hired this past january.
the hospital friends have been and are my support system as well as my 'team'.. a nurse friend played stupid last week and talked to the jw girl.
the jw asked her what religion she was.
Scully,
You were incredible! Would you like to represent me in a lawsuit against the WT? (little humor)
Brant
this is was very hard swallow.
i know of a family who has suffered tremendously when their son (15) came down with a mental illness - he cuts himself, has intended suicide 5 times.
he hard a hard time dealing with so many issues that he at one point told the elders i don't want to have anything to do with the jehovah's.
WAC,
You did a kind thing. I support your efforts to dull their knives.
Can you imagine how detestable it is to even call or refer to them as elders? Sh*theads, maybe. Bastards maybe. Assholes, maybe. Elders?
Brant
soon (if they haven't already) local congregations of jws will welcome newly disillusioned former members of the bethel family.
the most potentially dangerous have been paid off already (but what do you mean?
weren't we all given severances equally proportionate to our years of devoted service?
SOT, welcome!
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And so on.
Brant
when someone asks about the jws, i usually find myself talking about disfellowshipping, the blood issue, the child-molestation problem.
but looking back i think, although those are the easily explained and perhaps somewhat sensational bad things about being a jw, they're not the only things that have left their marks.
in fact, only the disfellowshipping issue has personally affected me (although i'm not officially df'd, but of course you don't have to be to lose your friends/family).
Cady,
Your post is so sad but true.
This religion knows how to knock people's feet out from under them and they think they are the only ones we can hold on to to keep our life straight.
I am a lot older than you, but I agree that leaving the org really bashes your personal confidence. Just keep fighting for the right to be yourself.
I wish I could say something that would really help, but I can't. Struggling myself.
Brant
i stopped going out in service about a year ago.
just couldn't take it anymore.
after that, i still continued "studying" with my kids and "counting the time" for that.
I think if you go inactive, not reporting time for 6 months in a row, they will get the idea and leave you alone. I personally find it distasteful to turn in fake reports. However, there are a lot of people on this board that are just trying to cope the best way they can.
I do encourage you to read the Bible with your kids and develop a spiritual relationship with them based on truth, rather than on the WT. Your kids are growing up in a very hostile environment, and if you can, help them to know the saving power of Jehovah through Jesus.
Sorry I got religious, and no harm meant. Not being a WT-ite doesn't mean you shouldn't be spiritual.
Brant
in your experience, at what point will a jw bible student become a convert?
what is the tipping point?
for example, is it the number of studies?
Garybuss hit the nail on the head, at least in my own personal case.
I was a witness long before I ever came to the organization. I had studied the books on my own and loved the hope of a beautiful paradise restored on earth.
In fact, I never had a study conducted with me and went out in service the first week that I met for the first time at the Kingdom Hall.
I remember it well. Went out in service with a Circuit "servant" back in those days named R.C. Benson.
I think studying with a person is important, but going golfing or hunting or fishing with a student is a deal closer. I used to get lots of folks going by doing that.
Also had studies for 3 years that attended only Memorial.
Brant
finally i am free.
i wandered outside the convention around mid-afternoon, returning for the concluding song, so i didn't get to hear "summary of the botchtower" nor the final talk (which gets all the seals clapping).. .
know that the kingdom of god is near .
truthseeker,
Thank you for the xlent report. I especially enjoyed your comments at the end re the internet.
May it please overtake and defeat them.
Brant
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that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
Now that hurt my feelings!!
Brant
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that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
