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  If you had the chance who would you meet from this forum???

  by Es in

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  there are just so many i would love to meet, some more attainable than others.. sparkplug.

  misspeaches.

  damselfly.

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  I'd like to meet Loruhamah.

  Someone told me she was one hot mama.

  I saw her at the Dallas fest, but was too embarassed to go up to her.

  I'm pretty old and have the "has been" look.

  U
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  Anyone From the Lakeside/El Cajon Area of San Diego?

  by Lainiejane in

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  thats where i grew up.havent talked to anyone i grew up with aside from one of my fleshly sisters and one friend in about 3 yrs.my mother hasnt spoken to me since dec 8th 2003 when i told her i was tired of the hypocracy and wasnt doing it anymore.

  we talked for a few hours and she said shed call me in a couple days after she processed everything, i never heard back.ive just moved to nebraska this year.but it would be interesting to see if anyone i grew up with or know was around this forum.

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  lainiejanenooffensetakeniseewhatyoumeanhowniceitistowritesomethingthatissomuchhardertoreadisfunbecauseitissurelyfrustratingtopeoplewhoareinterestedinusanditshowsthemhowindependentwecanbeihopeinfuturepostsyoukeepupthesamegrammaticalandpunctuationsoiwontbothertoreadthemeitheruninformed
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  Anyone From the Lakeside/El Cajon Area of San Diego?

  by Lainiejane in

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  thats where i grew up.havent talked to anyone i grew up with aside from one of my fleshly sisters and one friend in about 3 yrs.my mother hasnt spoken to me since dec 8th 2003 when i told her i was tired of the hypocracy and wasnt doing it anymore.

  we talked for a few hours and she said shed call me in a couple days after she processed everything, i never heard back.ive just moved to nebraska this year.but it would be interesting to see if anyone i grew up with or know was around this forum.

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  Lainiejane, I had a very difficult time reading your post because you don't seem to like punctuation. I am sending it back to you with some spacing between your thoughts. I don't do this to make you feel bad, but it becomes too difficult to read a post when someone never gives a line or thought break. I am sure you post so that as many as possible will enjoy reading what you have written. I hope this is not offensive. Uninformed ahh, yea see me being one of those goody goody regular pioneering teenagers i probably wouldnt have known him as i was NEVER allowed to associate with non witnesses other then preaching to them, lol. I only attended 1 year of public high school and then switched to home schooling(mostly because i hated school) it was easy to get my parents to agree to that if i was pioneering. towards the end of the pioneering and my later teens is when i started getting a little naughty. lol.and then i married one of those fine upstanding brothers, (who was anything but fine and upstanding behind closed doors) and that my friends was the beginning of the end. i tried for a while, but im pretty sure it was all to keep my family and friends in my life. And once i started realising that they werent true friends, and that my family(mothers) love was so absolutely conditional, and started making decisions for myself, it was so much easier to leave. I had the support of a new husband, who wasnt a witness, but who supported me as long as that was my choice, he even studied for a while. but when i started responding to his questions with things like, "well its not about the people in the hall, its about jehovah" and" you know i really dont know" I started getting more and more annoyed. Here i was trying to convince him we were different, and what i ended up doing was convincing myself we were not.It was never that he was trying to undermind my "faith" he was being honest and asking so he could learn, and when i couldnt give him the answers that even Id be satisfied with,i said maybe this really isnt right. The hypocracy kills me. Hearing my mother , who had moved away tell me that people shed known for ages, were telling her that our entire circuit was nothing but apostates and that she should be glad shed gotten away from the area, knowing that our po was always in everyone elses business but not "minding the goats in his own backyard", I started noticing that as long as you went to meetings, noone really cared what you did behind closed doors. What kind of witness was that to my husband? It was an embaressment to ME!. My brother , who is now an elder(so ive heard, because my mother still talks to myu oldest child who lives with her still witness father half the time, but none of my other 5 children) blew off studys with my husband to go watch tv with his witness friends, but hed go bang over and over again on the doors of people who repeatedly told him they werent interested, or who hed know were hbh, but since hed had a nice conversation with them hed keep going back. Mind you my husband was always prepared for his bible study, prestudied,took the time to read the scriptures before my brother would show up. "perfect bible study". But left abandoned for the super bowl with surround sound.@@ how freaking retarded.and hes looking at me like wtf?If this is so life saving then wheres he at. When he had tried to contact our p/o with questions regarding some things,(ie how my ex husband could do the things he was doing and still remain in good standing) he got " well since your not a witness you dont understand" Nice huh??? LMAO Anyway ive rambled on enough here.What it comes down to is this. Im over the witness thing, ive got a good life with a good man , and none of the bull. Couldnt be happier!
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  What leaving really means

  by under_believer in

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  recently my family had occasion to attend a function held in our honor, an event commemorating a certain achievement.

  it was thrown by close relatives, witnesses all.

  it included parents, grandparents, cousins, siblings, auties and uncles.

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  Steve Lowrey,

  good post.

  This is a huge mess and a big problem for all of us. Doing the 'right' thing has to be reward enough in itself.

  That doesn't make it any easier.

  God's strength to all of you.

  Brant
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  Convention release...192 page book..."Live with Jehovah's day in mind"

  by proandcon in

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  can anyone guess what this is a"thrilling" book is about.....the end is "here" (tm)...so be good so you can make it to the other side of armageddon per the wt, maybe...all the bs that fits in 192 pages...a copy and paste job for sure.... proandcon

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  Hmmm. I find the title very interesting. Notice it says "Live.......with Jehovah's day in mind". Almost saying "live your life, but just remember armageddon is just around the corner". Could this signal a change in philosophy? As opposed to the typical watchtower spew: "Put your life on hold.....armageddon is just around the corner?"

  I wonder if this will be a nebulous admission that they dont really know when armageddon will be (and with the 1914 generation change it technically could be at ANY future date) so do "live your life" but keep peddling our literature and obeying our corporation? This would be a different spin. They would be complete fools to stir another hornets nest similar to the 1975 fiasco. I will be very curious to see this latest propaganda piece.

  KID-A wrote the above post on his 1914th Post.

  I wonder if there is an omen in all of this? Could it be possible that the Kingdom Came in 1914?

  Kid-A, I don't take these coincidences lightly.

  Interesting that they can tell all of us that we are disfellowshipped for not agreeing with them, but they can categoricalloy announce that "all 192 page books are obsolete" and sell them to people who if they believed it would be believing teachings that are outdated, therefore they are subject to disfellowshipping before they get baptized.

  1914--1914--1914--1914--1914--1914--

  spooky deal.

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  What are you reading?

  by damselfly in

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  now that i'm done with school for the summer i've got some spare time to read as much as i like.

  heaven!

  i just finished "sylvanus now" by donna morrisey.

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  Loruhamah,

  That was a very impressive book list. I read some of those myself.

  I am in "Master and Commander" by Patrick O'brian. I like old sea stories and I plan to read all of his.

  For light reading I read all 11 or 12 volumes of Horation Hornblower.

  My favorite book of all time was two books, "The Winds of War" and War and Remembrance" by Herman Wouk.

  It consists basically of two volumes about WWII and follows one family's life. Very sobering novel.

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  What is the Future of the Watchtower Society?

  by jwfacts in

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  after reading comments on this site for a while and looking at what happens to other religions i feel the watchtower society has a long future in front of it.

  this is bad news all round, sad for us waiting for our families and sad for witnesses waiting for paradise.

  the reason i say this is that any organisation with 6 million members, billions in assets and little to spend their money on would find it very hard to go out of existence.

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  And may God bless their efforts.

  Brant
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  Why can we LOSE our Religion, but not LOSE it's effects on us?

  by gumby in

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  another thread inspired by me chatting with our sweet little mary.... we who have exited the jehovahs witnesses religion, are now convinced we made the right move.

  most of us have no doubt this religion is a destructive, cultlike religion that we wouldn't wish on anybody....and yet,.

  ....we still suffer the effects it had on us.

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  Gumby,

  Thanks for starting a nice thread. I have enjoyed all the comments.

  I was especially impressed with eyeslice, and I sure do thank him for making the comment.

  I am 60 and have studied the WT pubs since I was 10 years old and baptized at 15. My whole history is tied in with the WT. I hate that, but there is nothing to do about it except commiserate with all of you. My respect and love to all of you.

  Brant
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  Overheard at the Book Study

  by under_believer in

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  here are a few comments that i overheard at this week's book study (of the third chapter of the bible teach book), and the thoughts i had after hearing them: .

  conductor: "as food shortages become more and more common as the time of the end advances, they will make excellent field service points since they were predicted by the bible.

  me: great.

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  Rumor was that a cobra was blind.

  The 'light aperture' was a Bible statement indicating that the cobra was not blind. Our eyes are 'light apertures'.

  This may not be true, but it is what I thought I studied and came up with.

  any agreement out there in dizzyland?

  Brant
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  What is the Future of the Watchtower Society?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  after reading comments on this site for a while and looking at what happens to other religions i feel the watchtower society has a long future in front of it.

  this is bad news all round, sad for us waiting for our families and sad for witnesses waiting for paradise.

  the reason i say this is that any organisation with 6 million members, billions in assets and little to spend their money on would find it very hard to go out of existence.

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  Whereas, I believe every JW has some huge issue with the doctrine that they keep suppressed in their everyday conversations. And I believe that the ease of research afforded by the Internet will increase the likelihood of them accidentally finding information about many other issues they have never even considered before.

  Using myself as an example, I considered myself a JW even though I both believed and taught that Jesus is my mediator. I did not realize that believing and teaching this disqualified me as a JW until...I discovered information about the UN/DPI Associate membership on the UN's Web Site, then I (quickly) found out that the WTS teaches that Jesus is not the mediator for any except the remnant of the 144,000.

  Had I only discovered the UN/DPI issue I might never have left, I might have stayed and been troubled. As it is, within a few days I uncovered dozens of things I had been lied to about. I did not have an opportunity to allow cognitive dissonance to work its magic on me because, and only because, of the speed with which the information hit me. This is different than what a library affords. It will have a huge impact.

  Respectfully,
  
  AuldSoul

  AuldSoul,

  I think that your line of reasoning on this thread is correct.

  I have highlighted this quote of yours because it is almost a mirror image of what happened with me and my family.

  Konrad has some good points, and it is true that there will probably be no "crash" of the WT (damn it anyway), but I believe that there is a growing loss of faith and confidence in the org.

  My wife and I were DF'd first part of this month for our stand agains the Wt re the UN/Ngo involvement.

  Sure enjoy your posts.

  Brant Jones