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MY B-I-L IS IN THE HOSPITAL
by Mary inhere's another update on my brother in law:.
my sister and b-i-l went to the cancer center in toronto earlier this week to see about getting the stemcell transplant for his disease.
it was actually an encouraging visit as the oncologist there said that they did not feel his condition had progressed into the acute myloid leukemia yet and that he had longer---up to 2 years---than what his local oncologist had said.
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I can't lie Mary and say that i know what outcome all this will have, its you faced with the harsh reality of it, along with your Sister and Brother in Law. Remember, your Sister has you to support her and on that score, you'll know you won't let her down which can only be a good thing.
Take care and let us know what the story is. I wish you all the best.
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A Question Ex-Jws and Atheist On This Site
by Blue Grass ini have a question for the regulars on this site which are mainly ex-jws and atheist.
my first question is just for the atheist.
why do you guys spend so much time discussing and researching a book you believe to be fiction?
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Hey Mary, good to see ya! All good my end! noah & twins are well. x
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A Question Ex-Jws and Atheist On This Site
by Blue Grass ini have a question for the regulars on this site which are mainly ex-jws and atheist.
my first question is just for the atheist.
why do you guys spend so much time discussing and researching a book you believe to be fiction?
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BlueGrass, it is not me who has pain left to bare, but some of the individuals who still come here seeking the freedom to 'let off steam' without being judged by men who will never the time to understand why there are genuine reasons, for these hurt individuals to act on their emotions and feelings.
They have been wronged, and there is no one except themselves to pick up the pieces. You won't be able to comprehend this perhaps, because your already formed opinion on us as a group, but imagine the joy they feel when they discover they are not the only outcast, and have once again found belonging.
What does happen, eventually is that these people leave here, beginning a new chapter in their life. Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses are not to be scorned upon, they are unique in a special way, because not only have they learnt a great deal, but they have the opportunity to start a new chapter in their lives that seems that bit more meaningful. They take the world face on, relishing the opportunity to examine everything without fear. It would be like growing up seeing only in black and white, to suddenly being able to see in colour. The difference is extraordinary.
As mentioned in a previous post, some have come here so downtrodden and weary they have taken their lives. We have felt that loss strongly, not necessarily because we know them personally, but we identify with them and can understand their reasons. When you intiated this Topic, your broad sweeping statements were a kick in the teeth for those who deserve a break, and a total lack of respect for ones who are no longer with us, because of the Watchtower Society, which left them out in the cold.
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A Question Ex-Jws and Atheist On This Site
by Blue Grass ini have a question for the regulars on this site which are mainly ex-jws and atheist.
my first question is just for the atheist.
why do you guys spend so much time discussing and researching a book you believe to be fiction?
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The only weak thing i ever did was stay in the Witnesses longer. As regards to your comment about 'us guys' being unable to read well, i think you'll find it is you who struggles to read, or perhaps the Society teach their sheep to actively seek out association with its ex-members?
Your hypocrisy only serves to show your weakness. That you'd sooner kick a man while he's down, than follow your Organization properly.Perhaps, as an exercise to further develop your reading skills you might learn about the ridiculous things your religion has done over the last century? That is, of course if you can fit that in around the crammed schedule you have. Ministry, Meeting, Ministry, Meeting, Ministry...i don't envy you when i'm having a nice lie in on a Sunday Morning.
Oh, and before you tell me about the imminent destruction that awaits us all at Armageddon, take a moment to consider the District Convention, less than a decade before 1975 where the witnesses were told from the platform that this wicked of system of things would soon end. Ironic isn't it, that all those faithful people, just like the thousands before them failed to see the end which you so eagerly look forward to.
Remember one thing, just for me. You will see old age, you will grow sick and weary in this 'system of things'. You will never see another. Accept it or not, that is how it will be.
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A Question Ex-Jws and Atheist On This Site
by Blue Grass ini have a question for the regulars on this site which are mainly ex-jws and atheist.
my first question is just for the atheist.
why do you guys spend so much time discussing and researching a book you believe to be fiction?
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BlueGrass, you appear a little confused. You no doubt feel proud, registering on an apostate site to give us a piece of your mind, ignoring that the Watchtower Society forbids such a thing in the first place. Perhaps forgetting that association in any way, shape or form with us is never going to be acceptable so long as you are a Jehovah's Witness.
You may be unable to comprehend this, but that is not my problem.
People who are genuinely grieving a former way of life, sometimes even relatives & friends, need somewhere they can go to feel accepted. This is virtual group therapy for like minded individuals, who are venting in an open environment where they won't be judged for doing so. You and your shallow views, are not welcome.
What makes you look even more ridiculous is that you do not know any of us, and you insist on judging us by our comments on a website. You are but a mouthpiece for an Organization, that will ultimately leave you with nothing but empty promises, or like some, nothing but a burnt out shell.
You ignorant fool, desperate individuals have come here at the end of their tether, some have even ended their life. I may as well be talking to a child, with no compherension of the real world. It is not black and white.
I suggest you take yourself to a local Hardware store, buy a powerdrill and make yourself an anus.
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The Little Things
by KW13 inwhat really frustrates me, is that so many witnesses get caught up in huge worldwide events such as disasters, wars e.t.c that they fail to see that man isn't inheritantly bad, and that there are good individuals in this world who aren't part of the watchtower clique.
i find myself feeling pity for the witnesses, who wake up to a world on edge rather than a day that could potentially be their best.
many of them have ceased to try in their lives, unwilling to pursue education and even a family because they are waiting for their future which is forever just around the corner.
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What really frustrates me, is that so many Witnesses get caught up in huge worldwide events such as disasters, wars e.t.c that they fail to see that man isn't inheritantly bad, and that there are good individuals in this world who aren't part of the Watchtower Clique. I find myself feeling pity for the Witnesses, who wake up to a world on edge rather than a day that could potentially be their best. Many of them have ceased to try in their lives, unwilling to pursue education and even a family because they are waiting for their future which is forever just around the corner. It is the little things that enrich life, and for me paradise is not necessary. Yes thats right, i'm saying no to having a Panda, Lion and a Goat seeking shade beneath a palm tree in my back yard because i have a beautiful family that give me everything i need. My life is sufficiently meaningful and nothing will change that.
Also what i find rather frustrating is this belief that all ex-jehovah's witnesses are either in league with Satan and his demons, or just hate for the sake of hating. I don't hate the Watchtower or its followers. Instead it seems that Witnesses are almost rubbing their hands in anticipation, waiting for the Great day of Jehovah to blow us to pieces. Brilliant! Someones mother, someones son whoever is being dissolved by anti-matter before your very eyes, being consumed by birds and thats something to look forward to?
While we apparently are blind to the truth because we prefer to console our miserable selves within darkness, the Witnesses have open eyes to the truth. What is the truth? That the majority of you are apologists who refuse to debate in a fair manner because inside your scared of what you may find?
Nothing is black and white, even if it appears so. The same apply's to our beliefs. If you believe that we have a creator who made each and every part of our life interesting and intricate, why must our religious practices be mundane and cult like?
Open your eyes, it's really nice.
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Older posters check in...just post your name...we need to hear from you!
by restrangled ini am not the oldest but have 3 years here!
restrangled.. how about you?.
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Been here a while myself, amazing how this place carried on, growing from strength to strength and yes while there have been 'odd' moments where some hurtful and strange things have happened, its all part of growth and is necessary.
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For all the Witnesses proud about the coverage due to Jackson Family
by KW13 ini've lost count of the number of times witnesses have pointed excitedly to the most obscure references and mentions to their religion.
'look...look we're in the paper'.. what i say next isn't related to my personal feelings regarding michael jackson, however it needs to be said.. what i would like to say to all the witnesses, proud that their religion is gaining coverage through the whole michael jackson fiasco is this.
take one look at the mental state of those family members and tell me they are what you would consistute as 'normal' and 'wise'.
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I've lost count of the number of times Witnesses have pointed excitedly to the most obscure references and mentions to their religion. 'Look...Look we're in the paper'.
What i say next isn't related to my personal feelings regarding Michael Jackson, however it needs to be Said.
What i would like to say to all the Witnesses, proud that their religion is gaining coverage through the whole Michael Jackson fiasco is this. Take one look at the mental state of those family members and tell me they are what you would consistute as 'normal' and 'wise'. I don't believe for a second that they make a 'good witness'. Just because the real life equivalent to the Adams family adopt your religion, doesnt make it any better, real or tangible.
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Cat squeezes into a small fish bowl
by Elsewhere inyou have to see it to believe it!.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dna0owu_eu.
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What about this cat?