So last night grabbing the books before going to the beeting I checked and in fact I have one of each. The "schlong" book and the one with the Asian fellow. Pretty stinking funny. I don't think they intentionally painted it like that, but it happened that way and our brains look for familiar patterns everywhere. Or maybe it was done by one of TM3's bright socked tight pants minions in bethel as their own little jab at the mighty org who forces them to deny who they are.
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has anyone seen vidio on youtube about why they changed cover of songbook search youtube jw.org embarrassment
by poopie inany thoughts.
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I'm Ready... Thank you
by Garrett inhey guys,.
so, something amazing happened recently.
i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.
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What would happen if life was found elsewhere?
by HowTheBibleWasCreated insee jws have said time and again jesus died once for all time... a quote from hebrews.
okay rule out humn-like aliens what about animals plants and microbes... i once had a hot fight with an elder when i still believed that here was no reason to doubt alien animals etc.
yet not based on any wt article witnesses reject this often.. lets suppose say in a month microbes are found on ceres (i doubt it will happen but let's roll with it) they are living as much as our cells are and reporduce... okay what would mother say in the magazines when millions of jehovah's witnesses demand to know why jehovah created microbes on a dwarf planet?.
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If that is the case why was there nothing set up for the angels ala the Fruit. So satan stirs it up, and humans suffer for 6000 years and on to prove a point the angels were a part of, so many holes, -
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What would happen if life was found elsewhere?
by HowTheBibleWasCreated insee jws have said time and again jesus died once for all time... a quote from hebrews.
okay rule out humn-like aliens what about animals plants and microbes... i once had a hot fight with an elder when i still believed that here was no reason to doubt alien animals etc.
yet not based on any wt article witnesses reject this often.. lets suppose say in a month microbes are found on ceres (i doubt it will happen but let's roll with it) they are living as much as our cells are and reporduce... okay what would mother say in the magazines when millions of jehovah's witnesses demand to know why jehovah created microbes on a dwarf planet?.
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Less of an "if" and more of a "when" I believe they will right it off if its not intelligent life as meaningless, and if it is intelligent life they would say they are "demons" lol -
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How do you respond to JW family?
by Laika infor those who have left and are still in contact with jw family, how do you usually respond when they bring up jw stuff, i.e.
start talking about the nearness of armageddon or things like that.. i usually say nothing and just let it pass but i'm considering changing tact to something more confrontational, less because i want to change their mind and more because i find it tiresome.
thoughts?
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I have sat through so many crazy conversations. Just this weekend I had some Uber dubs staying with me, two are bethelites, they started discussing the lovely rape, dismemberment concubine story. Also god saying yes go and then twice losing. And tens of thousands dying doing what God said to do. I just looked down and kept silent. even at one point with all there justifying the one still said "who can know jehovah" barf. The witness wat of saying god works in mysterious ways ie this makes no sense. -
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Does God follow his WORD? Or is it --- do as I say and not as I do?
by Gnostic Bishop indoes god follow his word?
romans 12:21 be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good..
job 2;3 and the lord said unto satan: 'hast thou considered my servant job, that there is none like him in the earth, a whole-hearted and an upright man, one that feareth god, and shunneth evil?
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He's an a-hole
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Rational Buddhism?
by cappytan indoes a type of buddhism exist that doesn't include the metaphysical aspects of traditional buddhism?
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cappytan, I think it is awesome stuff to consider, there are a lot of ideas out there that are great to learn about, its like exercising your brain, stretching it out into possible realities, then to come back to only what you know to be true, you have in affect expanded your mind, without having to say "I believe xyz".
The problem with most religion like out beloved WTBS, you can't learn it all then say thanks and walk away, you must sign a contract that says you cant believe or learn anything else and this is absolute TRUTH!...
I think the idea of God was probably originally this way, man stretching his mind into possible explanations and imagination, but along the way people realized this idea gave them power over others. One of my favorite quotes and something that goes against everything the ORG tried to indoctrinate us with is this:
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
I've been that way for a long time, the example I always give is 9/11 conspiracies or the moon landing. So with 9/11 I remember people watching loose change, and many saying "that is ludicrous, I can't accept our government could do such a thing". and there in lies the problem. I think you need to be able to entertain any idea, and if you don't know for sure be able to walk away and say its not possible for me to say for sure. But with going there in your mind, and saying, i have to believe that it is possible, you are back in control of your mind, unlike the ones that say "they would never do that!!" they are biased to a fault.
Long story short lol, I'm with you, I love ideas of levels of consciousness etc, it is a rabbit hole, but as long as you aren't indoctrinated by it take the trip.
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Some Scholars "feel" that...
by enigma1863 ini am tired of jws using spin words to make it sound like scientist and scholars are not sure about what they are talking about whenever the wtbs doesn't agree with what they are saying.
they'll say stuff like the bible is true but some scientists feel evolution is.... do you know any good examples of these twisting of words?.
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There is a huge one here, they actually got called out on it. This is the most recent example:
http://www.inquisitr.com/1766536/biology-professor-creationist-magazine/
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How do you respond to JW family?
by Laika infor those who have left and are still in contact with jw family, how do you usually respond when they bring up jw stuff, i.e.
start talking about the nearness of armageddon or things like that.. i usually say nothing and just let it pass but i'm considering changing tact to something more confrontational, less because i want to change their mind and more because i find it tiresome.
thoughts?
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Say nothing! They are preaching to you to bait you into a witch hunt. Trust me. I always kept my mouth shut, when I suggested they not speak so callous and extreme because it would actually not draw people to god but turn them away, I got drawn into a debate, the debate turned into accusations and now no one is speaking to me anymore. Just ignore them. I know its hard. Feel it out carefully at the least, if someone really wants to speak about rationality ok, but generally I would steer clear, they may already suspect and they are waiting to get to the bottom of it so they can get down to the punishment/shunning part to make you come back to god.jw.cult its a trap.
Just remember this scary fact about the witnesses and other high control religions and governments
Thinking critically or independently are the MOST offensive and WORST sins you can commit. It's sick but that is the reality.
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Rational Buddhism?
by cappytan indoes a type of buddhism exist that doesn't include the metaphysical aspects of traditional buddhism?
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hmmmm. Well not sure. It has always been attractive to me as a non Abrahamic ass hole religion. I knew a lot of atheists who considered themselves secular Buddhists. So I know they didn't really buy that part. Just worship lucifer like me lol. There are some gnostic folks who believe missing chunk of Jesus life where he grew up he was in the easy learning Buddhism. All conjecture but interesting. I would never tie myself to any religious ideology fully again. I'd take the good philosophical bits away without buying the total package. Like even jesus or the people who made him up had good ones like do to others... although so did Buddhism long before him