My mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about ISIS and Armageddon, and I finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for Armageddon. Then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while I am holding back unloading serious TTATT on my family. I put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful Yahweh committed infanticide. it went on and on. Any way I got so pissed, before I said to much, I started texting my brother, who was mad at her too and agreed with my stance. (he is a weak witness now, was an elder before, but die hard for the truth still). So I unloaded on him, about the bible being fairy tales, and and the WTBS being a MLM, publishing cult/company making money in the realestate biz. Oh he was not pleased about that we debated until he went to sleep. But I am so mad I just feel like telling them all I want nothing to do with their damn cult and to piss off. So much for fade right? Someone talk me off the DA ledge.
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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Tower of Babel—unlikely to be a true account!
by abiather inwhen his children want to construct a tower that reaches to the heavens, heavenly father is unlikely to respond, saying: nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.
come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.
(gen 11:6, 7).
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Well lets use the bible, lets consider the ludicris stories of a global flood and the tower of Babel were true, how much time is there between the two? about 100 years? I can't remember exactly, but the idea that shortly after the flood the earth had enough population of inbreeds to support and build a city?
The truth is many cultures all over the world have their own explanations on how language came about. The bible bible version is just another myth to explain something from a small limited point of view.
The human genome and the movement of people around the world should disprove not only the flood but the babel story without these silly debates over little details. Think about all the other civilizations thriving and growing during this supposed time of mass global genocide, Egypt, China, India... they never got the memo I guess.
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Tower of Babel—unlikely to be a true account!
by abiather inwhen his children want to construct a tower that reaches to the heavens, heavenly father is unlikely to respond, saying: nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them.
come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.
(gen 11:6, 7).
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"Unlikely" really gives it too much credibility, research history etc and this story is as much bull$hit as the three little pigs. those types of stories aren't unlikely they are completely unbelievable
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My best friend - Helping him wake up?
by Garrett inso, first off, after my learning ttatt i've been feeling so much better!
my depression is gone, i'm so much more motivated, i can do everything i've always wanted to do but was forbidden from doing.
now, my best friend is still in, however, i feel that he may have a chance at waking up.
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freemindfade
I would proceed carefully and slowly, forget the that TTATT part, are you DF'd or just faded? I would start this way , apologize implicitly for ignoring him. Without making it about "The Truth" make it about being a good person. Doing the right thing, nothing about JW's. Repair the friendship.
Once you get there you guys can start easing into some discussions, I've been there and was successful. Just be a friend. And be a good person, he will see you stand out from the JW @$$Holes
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Religion is nothing but bad ideas
by freemindfade inin light of the continuing disgusting acts by isis... just remember.
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They all have the same bad ideas in the DNA of those religions
"MY god"...
"MY land"...
Genesis is full of genocide, and bible thumpers are so disconnected from it, watch some videos of these @$$Holes hacking up their own people, and the same thing happened in genesis. And anyone that says "well they were bad" why? because they didn't give god the right worship? Or maybe they acted presumptuously? Maybe they worked on the sabbath. Put all those people murdered by god and the Israelites in the orange jumpsuit in your mind, its the same crap, people who believe the bible are just disconnected from how barbaric the bible really is
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Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage
by freemindfade inwow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.
not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.
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cappytan
hahhaha excellent, I want to be like you when I grow up lol. You have got some of the best stories.
You know its funny, years ago in a hall I was in, I was reaching out, I worked full time, I was married, I did not get the national average in hours. it was 10, I probably averaged 6... these brothers wouldn't even use you unless you got the national average. Much less recommend for MS. My brother who was an elder used to get into with them. He would say someone could come into the congregation, never go out in service, and turn in 10 false hours and you would use them! basically telling them their obsession with the hours was unfounded. Now with my own turning in fake time later in my life, and cappytan answering while reading koontz, it just shows how hollow and empty their spiritual paradise is, most the people I know that got to MS and elder status would give talks off the cuff, no thought or care put into it at all, they would get less hours than me (once they were appointed), All the R&F that are zealous are sitting there eating this watered down crap up, cappytans comment, a talk from an elder with a hangover that he is winging, and so on. So empty.
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Religion is nothing but bad ideas
by freemindfade inin light of the continuing disgusting acts by isis... just remember.
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In light of the continuing disgusting acts by ISIS... just remember.
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The Watchtower logically prefers everyone that knows TTATT to disfellowship themselves
by enigma1863 inevery active jw that stays in hiding their knowledge about ttatt is a hole in the watchtower wall.
i propose those who can stay in, should, especially if they have high positions.
how else can we know what they are up to?
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I think when people in my new hall see "no participation, no donations, no field service, & no Ministry School. And NO association!" They are afraid of me, but then some see I'm not the devil and I am a happy kind person. I think there will be more of us as this org goes wacky, and others will see that you wont catch on fire if you check out of this crap. And its not my mission to stay in, just stuck. But plan on cutting meetings at some point. -
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Caleb & Sophia video Getting Big Coverage
by freemindfade inwow, i am kind of surprised the amount of attention this appalling video is getting from the media.
not surprised because it is appalling but that something that i grew up with was encapsulated in a cartoon and is exposing the witnesses publicly for mind control.. www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.
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Its the same crap over and over and over, for years. The speakers are generally not really qualified to speak publicly and sound very indifferent about the talks they give. Thats why it seems like such a charge when a CO comes to visit, they have energy and are trying to indoctrinate people, not just get it over with.
The watchtower is way too long, beating these things out into an hour is painful at best.
The whole theocratic ministry school has become pointless. How much do you really need to talk about this crap? Besides standing by a cart and early morning magazine carpeting needs little training. Also I think its a testament to how this is a waste, ask a JW at a cart a tough question and see how equipped they are.
I regret all the time ive wasted at meeting, service, and assemblies. And the time I will continue to waste at meetings and assemblies ( no more service for me) in the future for my wifes sake.
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The Watchtower logically prefers everyone that knows TTATT to disfellowship themselves
by enigma1863 inevery active jw that stays in hiding their knowledge about ttatt is a hole in the watchtower wall.
i propose those who can stay in, should, especially if they have high positions.
how else can we know what they are up to?
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I think this is a new era for that, I remember when I would have doubts in the past when I was in and doing as well as I could, it would be presented to me that if I didn't think it was gods org I should leave, suggesting that I shouldn't let them hold me back from being an immoral person.
So I always had that hanging over my head that to leave meant you really had to leave all the way, until this time in my life where I realized thats not necessary. I would love to leave all the way, but the cult will cut me off from my family, so this is an unfortunate problem with their cult control model in the information age. They want to DF, us TTATT folks can't fully leave then we'll weaken it from the inside out.
