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  guidlines for dress and grooming as laid out by CO

  by bluebeads in

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  so the co visited my cong and at the ms and elders meeting the brothers were told that those wiht parts on the platforms must not have sideburns, mustaches, beards or shaved heads because it is worldly.

  as well bright colorful dress shirts are not permitted eother because it distracts from the "important message" of the talk.

  there was also heavy counsel on tattoos.. on a totally different topic, i was talking to my mom the other day and she was going on about how free she would be in paradise.

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  bluebeads

  So the CO visited my cong and at the MS and elders meeting the brothers were told that those wiht parts on the platforms must not have sideburns, mustaches, beards or shaved heads because it is worldly. As well bright colorful dress shirts are not permitted eother because it distracts from the "important message" of the talk. There was also heavy counsel on tattoos.

  On a totally different topic, I was talking to my mom the other day and she was going on about how free she would be in paradise. I reminded her she would still be with my dad (both are JW's). Some how she has this belief that in paradise Jehovah will abolish their marriage and she won't be a married woman anymore. For the record, they do not get along at all and my mom has endured a great amount of emotional trauma from being married to my dad..i won't get into details. SO she believes that jehovah will answer her prayers and let her be single again in paradise. We got into a huge argument on this and at the end i just bursted out laughing..she's trapped isn't she?
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  Ever tempted to reveal yourself?

  by 5thGeneration in

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  being from canada and still "active", i always wonder whether i know other canadians on this board.

  trust me, some of you would know my family.. however, still being "active", i guess i'll have to wait to see some day.. anyone else same deal?.

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  bluebeads

  anybody from southern ontario? the toronto area? or GTA?

  maybe in a couple of years when i'm out of this mess i'll be able to meet with you fine people.
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  raised in the truth?

  by bluebeads in

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  i was just wondering what constitutes as being brought up in the truth.

  my mom was baptized when i was 7 and my dad got dunked when i was 11. right now i don't really consider myself as being fully raised in the truth because even though i've been going to meetings since i was 6 i just slept/doodled through them.

  my mom didn't study with us kids and my dad didn't start the family study until i was 12. i'm turning 20 in a few weeks... i've known life before the truth and it was much bettter, everyone was soo much happier.

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  hi. i was just wondering what constitutes as being brought up in the truth. my mom was baptized when i was 7 and my dad got dunked when i was 11. Right now i don't really consider myself as being fully raised in the truth because even though i've been going to meetings since i was 6 i just slept/doodled through them. my mom didn't study with us kids and my dad didn't start the family study until i was 12. i'm turning 20 in a few weeks..

  I've known life before the truth and it was much bettter, everyone was soo much happier. although they secretly deny this.

  My reason for this post is that my dad firmly states that i was raised in the truth and he doesn't understand why i won't get baptized. I however don't think i was really raised in the truth because i was brought into the truth as a result of them getting baptized.

  On a side note..isn't this creepy..i was out on service unfortunately last week and i was working with my bookstudy overseer (mostly just a counsel session/why aren't you commenting/getting baptised/ university is bad for you). Anyways he's in his early 60's and he started talking to me about the immorality of the world and how satan makes it such an easy trap to fall into because it's so pleasurable..and he keeps going on about how fornication is at first soo enjoyable b/c god made us to enjoy sex and on and on about it..i think he thinks i've done somthing..but i havent!! i felt so sick and uneasy because who talks to a 19 year old girl like this??? alone in a car

  the wholetime i was staring at the dashboard ready to run out of the car..
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  stuff i think about...

  by bluebeads in

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  ->is it fair/just/loving that innocent children be punished for their parent's wrongdoings etc...?

  a passage from the new book released @ the dc p.131-2.

  "(malachi 4:1) in that day of accounting, young children (boughs) will be dealt with justly according to jehovah's assessment of their parents (roots), who are responsible for minor children.

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  bluebeads

  ->Is it fair/just/loving that innocent children be punished for their parent's wrongdoings etc...?

  a passage from the new book released @ the DC p.131-2

  "(Malachi 4:1) In that day of accounting, young children (boughs) will be dealt with justly according to Jehovah's assessment of their parents (roots), who are responsible for minor children. (Isaiah 37:31) How parents are living may decide the future of their young ones, either for good or for bad. (Hosea 13:16) If you the (root) are not maintaining a good standing with Jehovah, what may happen to your young ones (the boughs) on the day of his fury?"

  -> The "enormous increase" of witnesses from the 70's onwards which is always being highlighted...well hasn't the world's population increased as well too during that time period?

  -> "Signs of the last days"...hasn't there always been wars since anciient Israel times..excepts now we have extensive media coverage in which it is constantly being discussed.

  What do you think/how do you reason on things you have been pondering about when you were in the truth?
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  what will they do?

  by bluebeads in

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  you all have been so helpful to me, much thanks to you guys.. due to the recent posts about df'ing and the like i was wondering what would happen to me.

  i'm 19 soon to be 20, i'm an unbaptized publisher but i want to fade and leave this crappola.

  my plan is to first finish school and move out and move on.

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  Hi everyone!

  You all have been so helpful to me, much thanks to you guys.

  Due to the recent posts about df'ing and the like i was wondering what would happen to me. I'm 19 soon to be 20, i'm an unbaptized publisher but i want to fade and leave this crappola. My plan is to first finish school and move out and move on. Here's the question...there is this guy i really really like, he somewhat knows and understands what i'm going through...

  he's definelty interested and i wouldn't turn him down..what happens if i start dating him once i start fading away? will i be disfellowshipped (no? b/c i'm not baptized...right?) or disassociated?

  what if things get serious and we have sex while i'm fading...will the elders tell my parents and siblings not to associate with me?

  i'm very scared and am not sure what will happen..they are my only family. i have no aunts, uncles, grandparents or cousins to turn to... so to lose my family b/c i'm not careful how i do thiings will break my heart.

  is there any easy way out of this without losing the people i love?

  thanks for your help.
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  any of you been treated like this?

  by bluebeads in

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  i'd have to say at least 80% of jw's in my area are related in some way or another...kinda makes me feel sick thinking about it.

  talk about reproductive anomalies with the gene pool getting so concentrated.... anyways i've noticed that families such as immigrant families or "new" ones who are not related at all to anyone are pretty much left out.

  i know family is family... but in the truth isn't every one a "brother" or a "sister".

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  I'd have to say at least 80% of JW's in my area are related in some way or another...Kinda makes me feel sick thinking about it. Talk about reproductive anomalies with the gene pool getting so concentrated...

  Anyways I've noticed that families such as immigrant families or "new" ones who are not related at all to anyone are pretty much left out. I know family is family... but in the truth isn't every one a "brother" or a "sister". Where is that unity they talk about? Maybe it's shown at international conventions but certainly not in my congregation.

  My point is they've all formed their little cliques and are all comfy with their cousins and relatives..no "widening out"

  I guess what i'm trying to say is that if Armageddon is true and it does come...NOBODY especially JW's are going to make it (except for infants) b/c the way the org. puts it in writing... isn't everyone a huge ass hypocrite ?

  i guess i'm just bitter.
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  counsel to youth

  by bluebeads in

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  -> no higher education...i mean what the hell is wrong with these ppl?.

  i'm 19, i'm a publisher and screw that i' am going to university!!

  just finished my 2nd year.

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  No I'm not baptised yet, i became a publisher when i was 15. Which is another reason why there is all this pressure on me. Creation of guilt trips on me every time i step into the kingdom hall.

  The elders are always cornering my dad who is a ministerial servant and are constantly asking questions about me. It's so annoying and aggravating.

  I feel like going up to them and questioning how they feel about their own 20 year old daughter who is getting married and she's dated the guy at the most 6 mos. Many scenarios like this occuring in my congregtion.

  That just doesn't seem right to me. I know in certain cases ppl do fall in love young and it works out..... but i think if this organization is so hell bent on giving advice to young people about how to make their future happy and successful.... howcome marrying so young is ok but going to school isn't???
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  counsel to youth

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  -> no higher education...i mean what the hell is wrong with these ppl?.

  i'm 19, i'm a publisher and screw that i' am going to university!!

  just finished my 2nd year.

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  bluebeads

  Thanks for the responses and I absolutely agree with everyone.

  I love learning (i'm such a nerd), but it's also the people i've met there that have just really opened my eyes to what I've been missing out on. The relationships i have with my professors and fellow peers is much stronger than with the ppl i see 3 times a week in the congregation. I love being able to debate topics and hearing other interesting views about issues in the world.

  My critical thinking and philosophy courses really helped me to see all the fallacies and illogical reasoning without scriptural backing (specifically in the watchtower) that is being published by the society. It makes me ill to sit in the watchtower study and see these people recite answers to the paragraph without even closely analyzing it to see if it makes any sense at all.

  It's just nice to know that I can make a real difference in people's lives and knocking on doors isn't the only way to gain happiness and fufillment.
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  Who has Tattoos?

  by Good Girl or Bad Girl? in

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  hey y'all,.

  how many of you have tattoos, and if so what are they?

  what is the meaning, if any, behind them?

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  bluebeads

  i do! I'm 19 and i'm a publisher but fading quickly.

  I got it done in March. 3 tiger lillies on my ribs under the left breast...it's a memorial tattoo for 3 friends of mine who have passed away recently..i also have my navel pierced..and i plan on getting a very private piercing soon when i turn 20

  nobody in my family knows and no one in the congregation knows..haha i love playing with my belly button ring during the meetings..i feel so rebellious..not really but oh well

  I love my tattoo, it was designed by a friend and it looks very nice and i love the position of it.
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  counsel to youth

  by bluebeads in

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  -> no higher education...i mean what the hell is wrong with these ppl?.

  i'm 19, i'm a publisher and screw that i' am going to university!!

  just finished my 2nd year.

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  -> no higher education...i mean what the hell is wrong with these ppl?

  I'm 19, i'm a publisher and screw that I' AM GOING TO UNIVERSITY!! just finished my 2nd year. It bothers me that lately there is sooo much counsel on not going to school but yet 20 year olds are getting married so damn young in this organization and they are getting praised just b/c they are pioneering...give it 10 years max and more than 75% of them are either separated or are struggling and catching their asses trying to make ends meet.

  The degree i'm going for is not for prestige or anything and the graduates of this program are getting at least 5 job offers before they even graduate. It's a reasonable paying job and will allow me to be independent. But ppl at the KH make it out to be such a big effing deal. Every meeting someone is coming up to me and asking..

  "So how many years do you have left?"

  "What are you doing again?"

  i tell them what i'm going to become...

  "What is that?"

  .....the sheer ignorance of these people..it's embarassing to say the least. They ALL very well know what I am doing b/c i'm the only young female in the area who isn't pioneering or going for a 1 year course to become a secretary. It's such a game and I know they are harassing me just to make me feel guilty..each time i answer them i just want to slap them upside the head..hahaha

  What more can I say to get them to leave me the hell alone???