Posts by DaveNwisconsin

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my story

by fordulant in

hi, i found this discussion forum and felt a need to tell my story, and prehaps talk to people who have an understanding of what it feels like and means to be brought up a jehovahs witness.

i was practically born into a jehovahs witness family, there was my mother, my sister and myself, my father (a non-believer) left when i was 3. i can remember my mum telling me that i would never get to school as armagedden would be here before then, then i can remember her saying that i would never get to high school as armagedden would be here.... it was a kind of running theme, mum always lived expecting the end of the world the next day.

mum re-married when i was 6 and her new husband quickly became an elder in the congregation, i also gained 2 step-sisters and a step-brother, who did not live with us but their mother who was not a jw.

DaveNwisconsin

First of all Welcome to the forum. This is a place that you can experience healing. The part that I am most happy with you about is that you got out before it was too late. You could have had children and why put them through all this. Be happy, I found a mainsteam religion and totally love it. If you look around you can find peace with God and you will never be unhappy you did that, again welcome, Dave

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Something I wonder.......

by DaveNwisconsin in

a month ago my mother died.

she had been a witness for 40 years.

when she was sick she got me wondering if all the witnesses think that this system will come to an end in there lifetime and they won't have to go thru death?

DaveNwisconsin

My thought when we talk about Jesus coming back is that it won't happen until the last day. Otherwise it seems unfair too all the people that don't know God like kids etc. God loves everyone, not just the Jehovah Witnesses. How can anyone think there is only one true religion? Oh ya, through cults!

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Something I wonder.......

by DaveNwisconsin in

a month ago my mother died.

she had been a witness for 40 years.

when she was sick she got me wondering if all the witnesses think that this system will come to an end in there lifetime and they won't have to go thru death?

DaveNwisconsin

A month ago my mother died. She had been a witness for 40 years. When she was sick she got me wondering if all the witnesses think that this system will come to an end in there lifetime and they won't have to go thru death? I know my mother went to her grave thinking death would not happen to her. One time she even told me she was like number 170 in line. One wonders when a person knows of there impending death if they think the new system is seconds away? Any ideas?

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Kingdom Halls . . . what to do when you leave . . . this is from KM

by garybuss in

jw
friends

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our kingdom ministry june, 2004 p. 3 announcements .

"in order to ensure the security of the kingdom hall, the last person to leave the building should lock the door.

DaveNwisconsin

You forgot one other point, light a sofa on fire at the exit and then lock the door. Poof!

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What could I say?

by pennycandy in

let's say you go back to your hometown for a family funeral.

you're not df'd or da'd, but most haven't heard from you for many years.

you know you'll get the inevitable "so are you going to meetings?

DaveNwisconsin

Go to the local Halloween supply store and rent a nuns outfit. You won't have to worry about being bothered by any of them!

I think its rude when folks come up and say where have you been? I am sure they know by your loved one who passed that you are no longer in the fold. When my JW mother passed away the family had her buried through the Catholic church. Only one JW showed up so it was real easy on the family. One may say, "But that was her faith and you should burry her through that" Well sorry but the survivors in the family don't believe in the same kind of death so it would have been a kick in the head to even listen to the "asleep" speach.

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My Family or Thiers?

by Dondi in

i am new to this site and am seeking a little advice from some of your more seasoned veterans.

i met my girlfriend about 7 years ago, when we met we fell in love and 2 years later had a baby and we moved in together.

i brought with me 2 children from a previous marriage and she had one from a previous as well.

DaveNwisconsin

It sounds like you are in a sticky place. For my family Mom was a JW and no one else was. The kids all grew up to resent her because we were always looked at as being different. Kind of like freaks. I have a brother today who is 46 and claims that my Mothers JW faith totally wrecked his childhood. If you really love her I would try to find a way to get her out of it. This sounds strong but our childhood sucked growing up with a JW mother. I am so happy as an adult to have joined a main stream religion and now that Mom is gone I want nothing to do with the JW hall people. Your children if made to follow there ways will be looked at the same way. Kids can be mean, and your children will have to live with the scars left behind from these people. My Mom died just a few weeks ago and the JW's didn't even show for her wake service. She worked her butt off for them for like 40 years and thats how they thanked her. Sorry if this sounds strong but I have lived as your child will live if you let this go on. Best of luck, Dave

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Doctrine on Homosexuality

by DaveNwisconsin in

i was reading on the web about gays and jw's.

first of all i am gay.

i am not saying i am sorry as i don't feel there is anything bad about it.

DaveNwisconsin

Thanks too all for writing. The only info I had on gays in the JW faith I had read about on the internet. We all know how that can be! I was reading some of the posts and it does make sense that if your gay in the JW faith that you need to keep your mouth shut about it or try to make some kind of change. When I was a young man maybe 12 or 13 I went with Mom to the hall. Not sure how long in time I was associated with the group, I am guessing about a year or two. I had done some of the readings at the KH, went out door to door, and went to some of there functions. How did I get away from them? All I can remember was there was a point where I just said NO MORE! Door to door was horrible, I didn't know enough info and remember some of the people quoting things I knew nothing about.

In the last five years I have become Catholic. I am active in the church by singing and solo music work. I know there policy on Gays and could care less. I take out of the church what I need and give back. I think anyone out of the JW's needs to set limits on any religion they get involved with. We learn that after the control they have had on us that we call the shots from here on. Opps......I think I need to start a new thread, keep the peace and Happy New Year too all who read this, Dave

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Doctrine on Homosexuality

by DaveNwisconsin in

i was reading on the web about gays and jw's.

first of all i am gay.

i am not saying i am sorry as i don't feel there is anything bad about it.

DaveNwisconsin

Its funny how someone can find out your gay and all of a sudden act like they didn't know you. Being gay is not an animal instinct. Straight people have nothing to fear. We don't prey on you or your kids, we love just like other people, pay taxes, pray and worship just like you, we just love someone who happens to be the same sex as we are. Most of my partners and my friends are straight, someone once said, "So what do you call Stan and Dave?" his reply was "Stan and Dave" I think God made us all for some reason, we are not to judge. The thing that gets me the most is how people think we are out there to nail there children, not true, not true at all.

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Doctrine on Homosexuality

by DaveNwisconsin in

i was reading on the web about gays and jw's.

first of all i am gay.

i am not saying i am sorry as i don't feel there is anything bad about it.

DaveNwisconsin

I was reading on the web about gays and JW's. First of all I am gay. I am not saying I am sorry as I don't feel there is anything bad about it. I have lived with my domestic partner for 14 years and am not interested in anyones husband or children. The thing that cracks me up though is that it is ok to be gay in the JW groups as long as you don't have sex with anyone. Of course they encourage us to marry as long as its with a woman. How many of you dads out there would like me to marry your daughters knowing I am gay? I think the JW's have there heads up a very dark place to think such a thing. Live and let live as long as you don't harm others.

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My Story

by DaveNwisconsin in

i wanted to share with people my story about the witnesses.

when i was five my mother had been searching for a new religion.

she was brought up catholic and didn't understand the church.

DaveNwisconsin

I wanted to add to my story and say there was only one JW that showed up at Moms Wake. They could have went there to pay there respects but didn't show. The one that showed up gave me a card and said they will look forward to seeing her in the reserection(spelling) and gave us ten dollars. At first my thoughts were not as nice. I thought about sending them a thank you and telling them I was using the money to have a mass said but then thought about it. I thought I should take the high road and not the low road. I thanked them for the gift and then said that they were the only JW to even show. I thanked them for coming and blessed them for the fact that even though my mother was known well in there Hall that I thought a lot of them for showing respect. I work with two JW's that knew Mom well and they offered condolences when I returned to work but said nothing more. No JW's at the funeral the next day and that was totaly fine with myself and the family. I would say there wasn't much love for her if they couldn't even show at the funeral home for someone that had been such a good witness. They get rid of you when you can't be out knocking at doors any more or writing letters. I use to say to Mom, " If we all pray to God aren't we all praying to God no matter what religion we are? I also say, "I pray to God, You pray to God isn't it all the same" I never got a answer...............