IronClaw

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  I made my wife think....

  by roflcopter in

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  she recently went on a rant about how i need to go to meetings and that she knows the wts is not perfect but its the closest thing.

  she kept trying to gode me into spilling everything... i simply put it to her in an illustration and it made her really think.... in response to her telling me that its the closest thing to the truth i told her my feelings: "if i was eating a peice of delicious chocolate... and then the baker told me she picked up dog poop with her bare hands and didnt wash them before she made them... would you still eat it?

  sure it still may taste good, but would continue to eat it?".

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  She got my analogy and was just silent the rest of the night. I hope that it sunk in.

  You did mean that You hope it STUNK in.

  The Claw.
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  If Jesus could talk to Satan...

  by AuldSoul in

  1. watchtower
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  consider the scene: jesus has just been baptized and immediately leaves for an extended stay in the wilderness all on his lonesome.

  now ... already this is something the governing body would discourage any jw from doing, but i digress.. along comes satan.

  jesus knows it is satan, because of how satany he is.

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  IronClaw

  I hope things are going well with your family. I will PM you my new phone number after we get situated in Pennsylvania.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul

  I cant wait. We will be neighbors. Maybe we can hook up and have a beer or two.

  The Claw
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  What Are Your Favorite Love Songs? XOXO

  by lonelysheep in

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  since valentine's day is right around the corner, please share what your favorites are.. i like a variety of music, so i'll list by genre:.

  80's: tie--"the beautiful ones" by prince, "a groovy kind of love" by phil collins and "almost paradise" by mike reno & ann wilson (heart).

  r&b: "so fine" by mint condition.

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  Englebert Humperdincks version of "Unchained Melody"

  The Claw
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  Has anyone seen this research on 607 and the Watchtower?

  by lurker in

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  2. friends

  i was recently searching the web for information on 607 to discuss with my wife and i came up with this.

  http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/607/default.html these people say that they are proving the watchtowers 607 date correct.

  i am convinced that the watchtower is wrong because of all the other things that i have researched but i would welcome any feedback.

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  The average JW doesn't really care about chronology though. The Watchtower could drop the 607 BCE doctrine tomorrow and most JWs would accept the "New Light" in stride without blinking an eye.

  HOW TRUE, HOW TRUE.

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  Deep River CT?

  by new light in

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  anybody here attend the deep river, ct or nearby congregations in the 1980s/90s?

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  I was in the East Haven hall at the time. I remember his son Todd. I lost contact with them when they moved to Deep River. I am now living in Upstate New York.

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  If Jesus could talk to Satan...

  by AuldSoul in

  1. watchtower
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  consider the scene: jesus has just been baptized and immediately leaves for an extended stay in the wilderness all on his lonesome.

  now ... already this is something the governing body would discourage any jw from doing, but i digress.. along comes satan.

  jesus knows it is satan, because of how satany he is.

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  AuldSoul, do you know whether or not a JW is allowed to quote scriptures at a former JW in response to questions?

  The Claw.
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  Where exactly is Satan?

  by IronClaw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since leaving the jw's most of us have also left most of their doctrine.

  so that being the case, most of us have left the wt understanding of 1914. now you know that the wt claims that satan was hurled out of heaven in that year down to the vicinity of the earth.

  so the question is: if 1914 is just another year to us, then what are your thoughts as to the whereabouts of satan and his followers?.

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  Thanks Guys

  I had fun with this one.

  Peace, The Claw
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  WTS Has Lost +35% of Elders in US Since 1994????

  by Seeker4 in

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  zack, on another thread, said he heard this figure from the platform at both the 2006 elders' school and his recent pioneer school:.

  that there were 93,000 elders in 1994, and less than 60,000 today, in the united states.. i thought these figures deserved their own thread, as they are shocking to me, and to see if anyone else has heard anything similar.. i'll post a link to the other thread as well.

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  This is a good thing. The fewer the better. Hope this is just the beginning of the downfall. Let the domino effect continue.

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  Where exactly is Satan?

  by IronClaw in

  1. watchtower
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  since leaving the jw's most of us have also left most of their doctrine.

  so that being the case, most of us have left the wt understanding of 1914. now you know that the wt claims that satan was hurled out of heaven in that year down to the vicinity of the earth.

  so the question is: if 1914 is just another year to us, then what are your thoughts as to the whereabouts of satan and his followers?.

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  Since leaving the JW's most of us have also left most of their doctrine. So that being the case, most of us have left the WT understanding of 1914. Now you know that the WT claims that Satan was hurled out of heaven in that year down to the vicinity of the earth. So the question is: If 1914 is just another year to us, then what are your thoughts as to the whereabouts of Satan and his followers?

  Just curious.

  The Claw.
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  How long will it be before no one over 18 becomes a jw?

  by fullofdoubtnow in

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  i believe it will be sooner than many of us perhaps think, in the western world at least.. i noticed in a thread the other day about baptism that the longest most people raised as jws waited to get baptised was the age of 18, and most got dipped well before that age.

  the last few assemblies i attended, just about all the baptismal candidates seemes to be young and even pre teen kids of jws who had been pressured into baptism by their parents and congregation elders.

  i can hardly remember the last person to come in to my old cong through being contacted in the field ministry, unless it's happened in the 18 months since i stopped attending, which i very much doubt.

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  In the US and other western countries the KH halls will soon be getting boarded up in the areas of low population densities as they fall below the core number of JW's and elders needed to sustain a meeting structure and pay their bills.

  I cant wait to see this.

  The Claw