That is a good question. I know of several when I was in, and now my wife tels me about her cong. and i swear that there has been at least 5 there this year.
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by sandy inanybody know what the jw divorce rate is these days?.
how many dub couples do you know that got divorced?.
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The Best One-liners for Witnesses
by gordon d inwhat have been the most effective reasons that you've given to the people that you love for why you're no longer a witness?
considering that most dubs have the attention span of a 2 year old for anything from an a-prostate, please be consise and succint with your answers.
just trying to plant some seeds of reasoning.... maybe in-depth discussions with those folks will come at a later time.
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Is that not what they say?
Ask them and they will say no. Then ask "Well if I left the JW's and became a Babtist(or whatever) and I still followed the Bible could I survive Armageddon?" or even if I did not join any religion.
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Faith Hill is a sore loser! LOL!!!
by Swamboozled inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyzriejniag&nr.
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Jinnifer Nettles and Sugarland should have won the Horizon award. Did Faith even have an album or song this year? I don't recall any and I am a fan of country music. Nothing stuck in my mind this year as really great this year....sorry
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The Best One-liners for Witnesses
by gordon d inwhat have been the most effective reasons that you've given to the people that you love for why you're no longer a witness?
considering that most dubs have the attention span of a 2 year old for anything from an a-prostate, please be consise and succint with your answers.
just trying to plant some seeds of reasoning.... maybe in-depth discussions with those folks will come at a later time.
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1.) Point to a playgroung full of children and ask - "If armageddon can today would you really rejoice and the sight of birds feasting on these children?"
2.) "Are you 100% sure in your heart and mind that any and every non witness is deserving of death?"
3.) "I know you are 110% sure that what you believe is the truth. But if someone else who is 120% sue that what they believe is the truth and has twice as much faith in their beliefs as you. And they also have 10 times the amount of Biblical scriptures to back up their beliefs, how can you then say with certanty that you are correct and they are wrong and deserve to die?" - "Did the mother of Judas love her son any less the Mary loved Jesus?"
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Elder's wife nosing in... need help with a letter
by merfi inhey all.
i read through my 10yo open msn window where she was chatting with the elder's wife... a few of the highlights are:.
do you think you might like to come to a meeting sometime?
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I would handle it a bit differently. First you must realize that if she did take your child to a meeting or anywhere without your permition it would be kidnaping. But just offering to do so and not trying to inform you is coercion. So I would print out all the conversations they had on line. Then take them to the police and file a restraining order on the woman and her husband(he has to know what his wife was doing). Also any other JW that contacts your child this way.
Don't send them a letter or they could in the future use it aginst you. No matter how politly you try and say it they could say it was threatning. So I would let the police do it.
One more thing keep watching and when they contact your child again, they will as they will want to "Obey God as ruler...." blah blah blah. And when they do call the police and the media and expose them.
Harsh I know, but if they get to your child they will have no problem in distroying your family.
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The new Track has anyone heard?
by ladione5000 inwe are all doomed to death, i think by the end of this year too, so we dont have long .
i heard that the work is going to stop, that would be kindof nice here since it is so cold in the winter and knocking on doors waking people up is really lame in the first place, i often wondered why we had to hit the streets so early and make people so angry?.
well supposely this new track is hitting him where it hurts, they are out right telling people they are going to die at the hands of god if they do not join up with the jws right now.
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It is worse that we could have imagined. Not only are the JW's right about the backlash they are reciving from this tract all the governments are also striking out at them in such a covert way that we are not hearing about it.
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Mom nearly ate me alive!
by Anony-Mouse inwe had a major talk about jws today.
i couldn't use the un or pedophiles, as this is 'outside' information, and she would never belive me.
then she would question my source, and i'd be killed by elder firing squad.
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One thing you could ask your mom is this: "If she was out in service, and found someone who belonged to a religion that taught everything the Bible says and followed it to the letter. However their religon had just one "wrong" teaching, would she tell that person to leave their religon and be a JW." When she says yes then ask "Even if the "wrong" teaching was just a small thing?" She will most likely will still say yes.
Then ask her "Would you drink a glass of water with only one small drop of poison in it?" Of course she will say no. Then the question is why is it ok for your religon to put "small drops of poison in the water and expect you to drink it.
Also study and understand the scriptures about Michael and the WT's ever changing teaching about who he is/was/will be. This is a purely scriptural discussion that can be used to plant seeds of truth about Jesus and seeds of doubt about the WT. It is a good starting point. With any conversation try and remember it is not weather you "win or lose" as you will rarely "win" in one conversation. Don't lose your temper or feel foolish if they seem to be "winning". That is what they are trained to do - Win at all costs, even if they distroy their own family and friends. They only care about looking superrior to every non-JW. Lood luck in future conversations and as has been mentioned she is your mother.
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Don't know what to belief anymore?
by GBSJG ini'm in my twenties and am raised as a jw by my parents.
i've been reading this board for over a year.
have read several books: crisis of consience, apocalypse delayed, who wrote the bible, the bible unearthed.
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Nobody has a monopoly on God. Nobody is totally right on all things and nobody is totally wrong on all things. Follow what you know to be rightous in your heart and you will do fine. Many good replies have been posted here read them and think on what they have said.
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Hypothetical ? for u. What if armageddon really did come...
by *jeremiah* inok, here's a hypothetical that i'm curious about.. what if armageddon really did happen?
not necessarily according to jw terms or timetable, but at some point it happens in your lifetime.
would any of you return to the jws?.
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No! If and when it does come noboby will know about it before hand. It would be pointless to return if you believe the Bible. It says no one knows the day or the hour, so why would you return some group who says they know what the Bible says they won't know.
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What planted the seed of doubt that lead you to leave or think of leaving?
by NanaR ini've been thinking of this a lot lately.
the following experience ties my first doubt in with my present life.
as a backdrop to this, you should know that i was a 5th generation "raised in the truth" jw through my mother (her great-grandfather got "the truth" from pastor russell).
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All my life my father has been a very positive and up beat person. Always looking for the bright side of things. Then when he became a witness he started changing, by having a moch darker outlook on life. My mother and I both became JW's also but something never "felt", and I do mean physical, with me. But what really set me off doubting big time was when my father said to me one day - "I want to call your sister everyday and just say goodby because Armegeddon could come and she won't join us". When I heard him say that I knew there was something really wrong about it all.