elder: what's your problem now?
little girl: he did it to me again!
elder: well?
ELDER: WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM NOW?
LITTLE GIRL: HE DID IT TO ME AGAIN!
ELDER: WELL? WE TOLD YOU!....... YOU HAVE TO HAVE 2 WITNESESS.......DO YOU??????
LITTLE GIRL: BUT HE MAKES ME DO IT TO HIM WHEN WE ARE ALONE!
Edited by - crawdad2 on 11 June 2002 11:29:18
i was reading constitutional law today in an attempt to find out if secular law and religious law intertwined in some way and i came across this: i thought you might find it interesting: .
the example of the conscientious objector remains relevant today and may be used to illustrate the continued proper application of the free exercise clause in the context of modern society.
in thomas v. review board,[46] eddie thomas, [page 56] a member of the jehovah witnesses who was conscientiously opposed to war on religious grounds, was transferred by his factory employer to the line manufacturing turrets for tanks.
hi dutchie,
you forgot to make it clear for us dummys that are easily confused........ the supremem court "reversed"?
did he get the unemployment or not?
as i read one letter from a judicial committee, which letter accused an individual of expressing violent thoughts about an unpunished.
child molester, i remembered 2 incidents where elders had revealed violent attack fantasies.. the po of my former congregation in wall, nj told me that he would like to "beat [a certain disfellowshipped wife of an elder] out .
of her chair" when she appeared at the kingdom hall.. .
most of the time their anger isn't directed at child molesters, or people hurting others,....... its directed at those who know incriminating things about them, those who would blow the wistle on them.
and they don't "usually" get violent, ......they start slander, very effective slander....
(wow, simon, did you steal microsoft word software or something?
well, today i did something that in most years past i would have believed would have resulted in me being struck by lightning; i attended a religious service other than the jw's.
this is the first time i've ever been to another religious service.
hi crownboy, that souned like something really positive to do. i've heard they let everyone develope their own spiritual beliefs.
i'll bet you meet some nice people there.
good morning everyone,.
i'm very new on here--just "born yesterday", as a matter of fact, but am finding out how wonderful it is to be able to be free to express thoughts and opinions, share ideas, give comfort, and find hope, within "these walls".. i'm going to ask a question, and that is, how long did it take any of you souls out there to find your true self, after leaving jw's?
i was very young when i was first introduced to the studies of jw's.
hi sentinel,
i understood your journey very well.
i am still on that jouney, finding out about myself and understanding myself.
being caught in a mind control trap like the jw organization, was a big lesson........ one that nearly caused me to end it all.
your post was full of love.......... i hope to hear alot more from you.
i have decided to spend less time on this board because of its explicit content.
i could take the time to wipe the floor with alanf who knows next to nothing about the papacy.
but we have decided to spare poor alan this time.
hi comforter,
thanks!.... i got a good laugh out of it!
you mentioned "god is on your side, you will prevail"?
are you sure god is on your side?......if so, how come you are loosing cases in court, and your organization is full of child molester elders?
here is the added material:.
stone phillips:(or john larsen).
in fact, anderson gave dateline a copy of this letter written in 1992 by a psycotherapist, a jehovah's witness himself, who said he'd treated many witnesses who'd told him they had been molested, and he had personally dealt with a number of elders who were more interested in suppressig a matter of abuse .
thank you for putting that up, dung beetle.
i hope many jws, who also have been molested or raped, come forward, and find support and legal advice at "silent lambs".
here is an interesting article for your veiwing pleasure.. * http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/azstar/20020608/lo/case_holds_interest_of_jehovah_s_witnesses_1.html.
local - the arizona daily star add to my yahoo!
news storiesnews photosaudio/videofull coverageall of yahoo!
hi jehovah's witnesses!...... i have rights too! i want everyones children to be protected from pephophile jws, who go door to door.
i want them to have a license given to them by the state.
these are the "last days" according to you!
your organization is full of pedophiles!
even though i'm not an active jw, my mom is and they handed out an outline at the service meeting last thursday about the dateline program.
even though i didn't go, i did get a copy of the outline and have posted it below.
the only info.
hi preston,
thanks for the outline.
it all sounds so nice on paper!......especially the part about 2 witnesses..... but in reality, .......because of the 2 witness rule, they hand little molested children back over to the pedophile parent, because there are not two witnesses.
how could they be so cruel.
i think every elder who was involved in such things should be sued by the victims..... they should contact silent lambs for information.
i like class action suits the best,..... they don't cost the vicitm hardly anything, compared to a regular lawyer.......they just have to fill out a form...and give details.. alot of victims don't have much funds........ but they have really been abused, very badly.
hey gov body,
what do you think of my idea?...... i was thinking of a class action law suit against you!.......... with hunreds of victims to testify!
and the victims sue for ~~~~BIG BIG~~~~ money!....... hey!!!... that would get your attention, wouldn't it?...... do you think you would win in court?
