one of the cornerstones of the watchtower society's claims about the 1918 trial of joseph f. rutherford and seven other co-defendants, is that the trial was a travesty of justice, where the defendants were railroaded off to prison.. to make their point, the society has repeatedly stated that joseph rutherford and his fellow defendants were "exonerated" of all charges, and subsequently released from prison fully vindicated.
the society also attributed this 'victory' to jehovah's hand in matters, restoring the symbolic 'two witnesses' spoken of in revelation, and thereby, reactivating the kingdom preaching work.. what actually transpired is that the convicted defendants filed a petition for a "writ of error.
" (trial transcript, pages 1-10, parts 1-30 ) the writ of error was allowed by the trial court, judge howe, and granted by the district court judge chatfield, whom the society earlier objected to and had removed from their trial, because they felt he would not be fair to them.. what does this mean?
i just loved that part too!!!!,,,,,,,rutherford went to jail and fulfilled rev 11:7!!!!!!........hahahahahah!!!!!!
it's really sad, too,.......cause right from the beginning i knew that they were making that up......but i didn't understand the signifigance of it......so i didn't dwell on it.
later when i understood that prophecy better, i realized that those lies made them false prophets......they claim to be those prophets,.....hahahahaha
i noticed that non_trias_theos posted a comparative comment about ex-jws and divorcees ... and this raised some additional thoughts given the recent proclaimation that many, perhaps 90%, of the jwd posters are an angry mob, blaming everything on the watchtower religion.
non_trias_theos said in part: "peeps on this board sometimes remind me of bitter divorcees.
once they were supposedly happy jws who had that first love and joyfully engaged in meeting attendance and the preaching work.
it took me 20 yrs to realize that the watchtower org was not what it claimed to be.
there were a million tell tale things happening that should have made me aware, but...i made excuses....
when i finally figured out i had been taken for a ride......wow!!!, was i mad!!!!!!!
well, now i know why there are so many numbers i do not recognize on caller id.
i just pulled this off of just jw's, apparently the jw's are using the telephone for return visits!!
read below.
hi puffs,
you're right, i don't have any film...
last march, i suspended my jfr trial series.
i was being too detailed, and presenting it in too dry a fashion.
so, in the last two months, i have been working on it from the approach of a story line, except that i retained the reference citations.
hi amazing,
i guess false prophets have to rely on "marketing".......instead of "god".
most jws though, don't even understand the signifigance of their claims centered around 1914-1918.
once you know the scam, you can see their "guilt" in everything they do, or ever said.
just feel like i need to vent.
my wife accused me of seeming not to enjoy being around her.
this was an accurate assessment on her part though i didn't acknowlege that.
hi yeru,
so far she just sounds a little lazy...and looking for enjoyment away from you.
you sound like you are handling the situation very well, you must be a nice person.
i hope you can help her love you a little more.........are you giving her all she needs romantically?........if she were to leave, you would still have to do all the chores........
i was married to a very energetic "clean freak"......she vacumed the floors every day, and sometimes twice a day,......also scrubbed the kitchen floor one her hands and knees twice a day, and was very active in field service, sometimes pioneering............she was impossible to live with.....
i guess after that, i would rather have a slightly lazy one,,,,,,,but i havent tried that yet, soo.................good luck, i hope you can work things out.
it just amazes me.
i sent the articles on child molestation to a jw back in wisconsin and her response was "so?".
my son sent the articles to a jw couple he thought were friends and their response was that the victims should keep quiet so as not to bring reproach on jehovah's organization and then they went to the elders and accused my son and daughter-in-law of being apostates.. they can be so cold hearted and never miss a chance to back stab a best friend.. well, it did accomplish one thing.
i have found that when you nail a jw with some irrefutable truth, their true spirit comes out,,,,,,,
alot of them have a really haughty, selfrighteous, mean spirit, a lying spirit.
most of their "works" are not motivated by "love".....they are motivated by "greed" or "fear"...........such as.....going out in service to get their hours in, so they can have enough hours to be qualified for a "title", a "position of authority"...
or getting some hours in because they think god is going to kill them if they don't.
i find this on unother board and i think it proof realy good that russel dont was a mason.. "there is no evidence that the 1913 discourse was an attempt to lay an issue at rest.
there is no evidence that it was.
thought that russell was a mason at the time.
hi happy man,
so what if he started out a mason, or didn't start out a mason???
he ended up claiming to be god's mouthpiece>>>>> duet 18:20
hi ..........just thought i'd drop in and say hello.
looking forward to the dateline show.
cowboy..........cassie...........xena..........thanks for the emails.
BOO!!!!...........
who's got the upper hand at the moment, the watchtower org or the apostates.. when you first leave and find out there are many other like you , you can feel like the watchtower org is crumbling.but many have been out for years and the watchtower has continued to grow.. are efforts by apostates working?.
or is the watchtower able to easily counter them?.
do most leave the org due to efforts by those who have already walked out , or do most find their own way?.
i don't think they are growing at all anymore(i don't believe any of their statistics, they are proven liars)........at best they are on a very slow decline........baptizing "children" is keeping their numbers up........also still a few undeveloped countries, where the internet information is not available.........as their members die off, there won't be the same amount of replacements.
the truth about jw history and their doctines is becoming so easily available now, all someone has to do, if they are curious or studying, is to type in "jehovah's witnesses".......and bingo......they can easily refute any jw propaganda, to where the person conducting the bible study will not even talk to them anymore.
on the other hand, what do i know?.......there is a sucker born every minute, and jws have just a much right to brainwash them as anyone else.
this is something i've been wondering about lately due to personal experiences.
my mother and stepfather (she's a jw, he is not) have been having some marital problems of late and instead of seeking out the advice of a marriage counselor or some similar specialist in the field, they have chosen to seek help through one of the elders in her congregation.
i'm completely surprised by this, yet i know i shouldn't be.
it's all in the brainwashing program..... it's very effective.
when they have problems, they go to the ones who are causing them the problem in the first place, for more advice.....and as their lives get worse and worse, they go more and more......till they finally wake up, and get out,,,,,,,or commit suicide, cause they think god must hate them.
