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  Isaac Hayes quits South Park, apparently over Scientology episode

  by DanTheMan in

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  story here.

  lol, all the hell that that show has given to xtians and jews over the years, and he never batted an eye.

  cultists are a sensitive lot ain't they?

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  Maybe he could get electrocuted by his electoencephalpathoogicadiogram during auditing. Or put into a volocano and blown to hell with an H bomb.

  I always wondered about those H bombs - if Xenu already dumped the unfortunates in a VOLCANO, then what more was an H bomb going to do to them?

  Seriously, I discussed this very subject with my ex-Scientology SeaOrg bud yesteray and we agree that if you put out crap like the above, then you really cannot complain that you get made fun of for it. He also says that L. Ron Hubbard chain smoked Lucky Strikes and sometimes he had to go on shore leave to buy them. But, in 5 years on that boat he was never even allowed to speak to the great man.

  By all credible accounts, Hubbard was very much like a Russell or a Rutherford and died a bitter and pissed-off paranoid old man. And then had the whole empire taken over by a con-man who was not his chosen heir.

  Is that clear?

  James, operating Thetan of the 911 class.
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  607 vs 586 - Why should WTS care?

  by james_woods in

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  of course, there must have been a thousand threads on this debate.. having read a few of them, i say who cares?

  particularly, the society?

  ok, so lets say it really was 21 years later than they thought...but using their same (flawed) chronology theory:.

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  Yikes, Leolia - that made my brain hurt! Did you ever do covert research for Brooklyn? LOL!!!

  But, no matter how you add it up, I cannot see that anything has happened in the last 150+ years that looks at all like the coming of the Lord.

  Just world history as usual, along with the inevitable rise and fall of numerous religious cults. Some more or less weird or greedy than the others. JW, Jonestown, Mormonism, 7thDay, HeavensGate, Scientology, AleisterCrowley, etc. Not even the Y2K computer crash came true!

  Also, isn't it just great that these false prophets always think their stuff up or fudge it after the fact - when their date passes as usual, they modify their own words into a see - a great fulfillment has just taken place. We just didn't have it revealed by Jehovah for a few years past the fact.

  They might as well have said that Jesus Christ was going to ride through town January 1, 1999 at high noon on a go-cart, IMHO.

  James
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  Did Albert Schroeder display a prideful attitude?

  by VM44 in

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  some of the posts made about albert schroeder indicate that he displayed a somewhat prideful attitude.

  is this correct?

  can anyone give specific examples of his being prideful?.

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  I had this guy in Elder school 1970. He was about as self-prideful as they come, but tried to give an aura of great wisdom and knowledge and humility at the same time. He could also just cut you off in midsentence and walk away. Most of his displays were memory tricks rather than use of logic or reasoning.

  I was hoping that he might be in on the enlightened group when Ray and Ed broke away. I asked Ed about it. Ed Dunlap felt the same as I said above - he went to great lengths to look like a knowledgeable professor. He was in reality a WT hardliner. Ed specifically told me about that terrible talk posted before where he said that some of the apostates were not "apostate against the Bible" but were rather "apostate against the GREAT BODY of WT LAW" that they had build up over the last hundred years.

  I also agree that we apostates should be careful not to be too virulent against the guy personally - from all accounts his wife and maybe even the boy were pretty decent people. I am still holding on to the hope that the boy finds his way out of the cave.

  James
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  Did Albert Schroeder display a prideful attitude?

  by VM44 in

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  some of the posts made about albert schroeder indicate that he displayed a somewhat prideful attitude.

  is this correct?

  can anyone give specific examples of his being prideful?.

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  james_woods

  I had this guy in Elder school 1970. He was about as self-prideful as they come, but tried to give an aura of great wisdom and knowledge and humility at the same time. He could also just cut you off in midsentence and walk away. Most of his displays were memory tricks rather than use of logic or reasoning.

  I was hoping that he might be in on the enlightened group when Ray and Ed broke away. I asked Ed about it. Ed Dunlap felt the same as I said above - he went to great lengths to look like a knowledgeable professor. He was in reality a WT hardliner. Ed specifically told me about that terrible talk posted before where he said that some of the apostates were not "apostate against the Bible" but were rather "apostate against the GREAT BODY of WT LAW" that they had build up over the last hundred years.

  I also agree that we apostates should be careful not to be too virulent against the guy personally - from all accounts his wife and maybe even the boy were pretty decent people. I am still holding on to the hope that the boy finds his way out of the cave.

  James
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  Attacking Satan by drawing scary pictures

  by hallelujah in

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  i was watching pictures of the stampedes at the haj and it occurred to me that throwing stones at the pillar of satan was a really ineffective way of dealing with evil in the world.

  it occurs to me that drawing scary pictures of satan in the watchtower is similarly ineffective in combating evil.. any thoughts?

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  Weren't the Gargoyles carved on cathedrals supposed to SCARE OFF the demons instead of representing them?
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  An Apostate Myth

  by nicolaou in

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  having read both of ray franz' books and more recently 'the gentile times reconsidered' by c. o jonsson you'd be forgiven for believing that losing the 607 b.c.e date for the destruction of jerusalem would end in disaster for the society.

  sorry but i just don't think so.. i'm sure many of the long-time witnesses who know the history of the society would truly have problems but most of the dubs just don't care!

  think about it, remember all those dubs you used to hang out with.

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  Hey - sorry about not chaining on your thread; did not know it was there...James
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  607 vs 586 - Why should WTS care?

  by james_woods in

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  of course, there must have been a thousand threads on this debate.. having read a few of them, i say who cares?

  particularly, the society?

  ok, so lets say it really was 21 years later than they thought...but using their same (flawed) chronology theory:.

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  Well, of course I knew nothing of the sort was ever going to happen when I dreamed it up. Just a thought excersise. So, Blondie and Sir82 are both right and I was wrong! Seems a shame, though -

  Carrying the dates on like Sir82 has, you could kind of tie into WW2 instead of WW1! Invasion of the low countries! But, as Blondie has just proven - they will not let go of their faithful one organization glorification moment.

  By the look of Blondies numbers, even if my little idea could get them off some hooks, they are just too stubborn to let go of 607.

  So, I guess the question becomes - why do we apostates care about 607 vs 586?

  Probably things like UN and Blood hit a lot harder for a lot less intellectual effort.

  Bang for the buck, and all that - James
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  Thank you

  by beautifulisfree in

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  i just wanted to say thank you to all those who welcomed me.

  i am glad to be here!

  it feels good to know others are going through the same things.

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  james_woods

  Hi, I just saw you thank you note sitting there without a reply and thought I would jump into it. This is normally kind of a quiet hour of the day (about 3:00pm central for me), so I thought I would say something before it disappeared.

  Yes, this is pretty much a great place to explore new ideas and meet new friends. Ugly stuff (or bad people) don't seem to make it here very long.

  I don't know much about your story right now, but maybe I can look over your first few posts in a few minutes. So, welcome for now,

  James
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  Is There ANYTHING That You Still Believe From The Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  or was it all bull?

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  There is a story in Mark McCormick's book "What they don't teach you in Harvard Business School" -- (McCormick was the business advisor to sports stars of the past like Arnold Palmer & race driver Jackie Stewart.) So ---

  This guy is a multi-millionaire, but never even finished high school. His poor buddy from Harvard asks, Fred, how did you do it?

  Guy replies - look, I just found this product I could buy for a dollar and sell for five dollars. You know, it's just amazing how much money you can make on a 4% profit margin!

  I think the WTS guys had this down long before Mark did.

  I still believe in that 4% profit margin.

  And thats about all, James
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  607 vs 586 - Why should WTS care?

  by james_woods in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of course, there must have been a thousand threads on this debate.. having read a few of them, i say who cares?

  particularly, the society?

  ok, so lets say it really was 21 years later than they thought...but using their same (flawed) chronology theory:.

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  Well, yes of course Blondie - I had forgotten about the "cleaning of the hives". Had to get rid of those apostate Russellites.

  But, I will make a small wager that not too many active Witnesses remember much more about 1919 than, say - the 1925 or 1935 dates?

  The WTS/GB already have their captives all conviinced they are the only true pipeline by now anyway - 1919 or not.

  I was expecting someone to mention 1874 (or even 1844) - but I'll bet they have abandoned those years for all practical purposes.

  My point in wringing some more whey out of all this mouldy cheese was that the WTS can pretty much do whatever it wants with prophecy.

  If so, why couldn't they just begin to let go of all that turn of the century added up stuff someday soon to avoid further embarassment?