I swear this prime minister of ours is turning into a dictator. There are so many sound bites to be gleaned from recent speeches this prick has given. He said on Sunday he is not afraid to press the red button! Absolutely scary, another Thatcher all over again!
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"If you are teaching intolerance, we WILL shut you down!" English Prime Minister David Cameron
by stuckinarut2 inthe prime minister of england made the above statement yesterday regarding any schools that influence youths in a negative manner.. he went on to say that if youths are influenced in a negative manner regarding religious teachings that promote judgement of others (including same sex relationships, etc ) or that look down on other peoples free choice, the government would take action.. i cant find a newspaper article sorry...i just heard it on the radio news.... very interesting though...it may have a bearing on how those who learn ttatt are treated by the organization??
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Regarding changes and my poor mother!
by username inwell i just got off the phone with mother (thankfully she has no part in the shunning policy) and she thinks the changes are "marverless" this i would imagine is the general consensus of most hardcore rank and file!
she is even investing in a roku device so she can watch more indoctrination programming.
to be honest i wouldn't even try make her think, because she has far to much invested in the cult.
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Well I just got off the phone with mother (thankfully she has no part in the shunning policy) and she thinks the changes are "marverless" this I would imagine is the general consensus of most hardcore rank and file! She is even investing in a Roku device so she can watch more indoctrination programming.
To be honest I wouldn't even try make her think, because she has far to much invested in the cult. Our brother died at the age of 21 and our dad is no longer with us either so she is living for the hope of seeing them again. As a descent human being, there is no way I would be able to take her away from that thinking.
Sometimes we have to let go and respect the persons belief system. The hard truth is, it is very rare that we can wake a person up, especially if there is emotional investment. We have to hope that one day something comes along and makes them think something is not right.
Sometimes we need to put ourselves in there position, if there is a certain amount of emotional investment, in my opinion, trying to wake a loved one up could be more harmful to that loved one than beneficial.
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News flash - ex-Bethelites protest Watchtower headquarters- Governing Body flees
by Esse quam videri inpandemonium broke out at the headquarters of the watchtower bible and track society as hundreds of former bethel workers protested being released from their assignments and told to vacate the premises.
the governing body members barely escaped the wrath of the mob, some without the shirt on their backs.
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Child Discipline, new article to address Jackson's Royal Commission testimony
by jwfacts ini have published a new article at watchtower corporal punishment, as a response to the testimony that geoff jackson gave at the royal commission.
it includes the relevant part of the transcript, along with a string of watchtower quotes to show that what he presented was not accurate, and that watchtower translates rod as a literal implement to hit children with.
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1914 'Big A' WT Retraction/Apology?!
by lurkernomore inso i just met with an old 'friend' who wanted a 'chat' after no contact for the best part of 4 years.
she obviously heard about the wonderful news of my abrupt fade :d. i guess i wanted to prove to myself that any future meet ups/chats with jw's would be pointless.
needless to say i proved myself right.
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I mistakenly let my mother know about the upcoming changes before the letter was read on Sunday. I was treated to 15 minutes of fluff. I had to shut down. I'm telling you now, Pink unicorns flying over rainbows was a very appealing proposition that very moment! -
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1914 'Big A' WT Retraction/Apology?!
by lurkernomore inso i just met with an old 'friend' who wanted a 'chat' after no contact for the best part of 4 years.
she obviously heard about the wonderful news of my abrupt fade :d. i guess i wanted to prove to myself that any future meet ups/chats with jw's would be pointless.
needless to say i proved myself right.
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This I'm afraid is something the rank and file say all the time. The watchtower do apologise for their mistakes. The reason why I have stopped talking about anything Watchtower with my mother is because anything that is said against the watchtower is countered with how wonderful they are....including the watchtower has always apologised! Absolute poppycock! -
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Public talk anyone?
by GodZoo inwas just doing a little research and stumbled across this archive of recorded public talks by co's, do's and governing body members from 1979 up to 2013. a fascinating resource for those who would like to research the doctrinal changes and possible flip flops over the last 30 years... http://printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/docovisits.html.
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Critical Thinking and undeniable facts of true truiness
by losthobbit ini was recently writing to someone on the fractal future forum.
he came across as a very intelligent person, but i noticed that a post of his about medicine showed that he seemed to lack a lot of knowledge about medical testing and the scientific method.
so, i asked him some questions, and his reply seemed to contain a logical fallacy in every sentence, concluding with a quote from mercola.com, one of those really dodgy conspiracy theory / anti-science type of sites.
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Critical Thinking and undeniable facts of true truiness
by losthobbit ini was recently writing to someone on the fractal future forum.
he came across as a very intelligent person, but i noticed that a post of his about medicine showed that he seemed to lack a lot of knowledge about medical testing and the scientific method.
so, i asked him some questions, and his reply seemed to contain a logical fallacy in every sentence, concluding with a quote from mercola.com, one of those really dodgy conspiracy theory / anti-science type of sites.
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DJS. I completely respect your thoughts on conspiracy theorists. Is there anything that makes you hate conspiracy theories so much? I'm asking this with the upmost respect for you here :) -
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When was the last time he had a dream you were chased by Demons???LOL
by James Mixon ini have had dreams being chased by gang members, chased by jw's, my experiences.
in vietnam, not one single horn chasing demons and the end of days..
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https://youtu.be/gtN2nDFpUw8I had a dream last night I was being chased down by a gunman. He did catch up with me. The only thing was, I had a girlfriend in this dream and like a big coward I ran away from said gunman and left her there with him!