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Religion in the USA and Elsewhere

by Joe Grundy in

trying to follow media reports in the us and elsewhere, a question occurred to me.. in the uk, religious beliefs are largely irrelevant to most people.

even those who claim adherence seem to do so in a fairly vague way and it doesn't seem to make much difference.. in the us (it seems to me) it's a much bigger issue.

the evangelical christian movement seems quite powerful politically in various iterations ("family values" etc.

Wild_Thing

Knowing and understanding a politician's religion is very important to me, and it think it should be important to everybody. I know I am probably more sensitive about it than non-ex-JWs, but I wish other people paid for attention to it.

A person's religious beliefs naturally influence a person's decision making about a lot of things, and it is a great way to tell what their world view is.

For example, Trump made it very clear that he was against muslims and wanted a muslim ban when he was campaigning. I am guessing there were people who disagree on that issue, but voted for him anyway. For me, it would be a deal breaker. I think it should be for anybody.

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When All Else FAILS Protest and Cry When You Don’t Get Your Way

by minimus in

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do these democrats really think that if they protest and wail about anything they don’t like , that policies will change ?

they are really embarrassing themselves..

Wild_Thing

This kind of dialogue is why we remain so divided as a nation. Last time I checked, protesting and even "wailing" is a first amendment right that, believe it or not, has helped change things that people were unhappy about in the past.

Grow up.

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Just a thought

by moley in

just a hypothetical question.

if the society was right and armageddon came a knocking would you want to live in a society run by the org and bully elders.. would rather die at armageddon.

i would.

Wild_Thing

Give me liberty, or give me death!

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Funeral/Memorial at the Kingdom Hall ... Would you go?

by Wild_Thing in

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let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

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let's say you barely knew them.. let's say their memorial service was held at the kingdom hall.. let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and jws, and you are forced listen to them present their paradise promotional materials, and the dead person's "earthly hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a kingdom hall again.. would you put yourself through it?

Wild_Thing

Thank you to all sharing your experiences and opinions. It is a hard decision to make. I have about decided not to go. I don't see ANYTHING good coming out of it. I just don't understand why I can't shake the guilt over not going! Old JW programming, I guess?

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Funeral/Memorial at the Kingdom Hall ... Would you go?

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

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let's say you barely knew them.. let's say their memorial service was held at the kingdom hall.. let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and jws, and you are forced listen to them present their paradise promotional materials, and the dead person's "earthly hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a kingdom hall again.. would you put yourself through it?

Wild_Thing

Let's say an aunt or uncle dies.

Let's say you barely knew them.

Let's say their memorial service was held at the Kingdom Hall.

Let's say if you attend, you have to deal with shunning from family and JWs, and you are forced listen to them present their Paradise Promotional materials, and the dead person's "Earthly Hope™", and let's face it ... the heeby-jeebies of having to be in a Kingdom Hall again.

Would you put yourself through it? Why?

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Matt 5: 29, 30 used to justify shunning

by Jules Saturn in

i had a family relative use this scripture found here to justify shunning.

the scripture reads as followed.

if, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you.+for it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into ge·henʹna.

Wild_Thing

I can't believe they are using something out of context to justify their behavior. It's so unlike them.

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Naked JW's day in court

by Moster in

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the latest from the 'tea' drinkers in canada.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/police-were-monsters-who-would-kill-them-details-emerge-in-alberta-naked-kidnapping/ar-aaab1wh?li=aaggfp5&ocid=calheader.

i can hear them chanting now.

Wild_Thing

Say Jehovah 10 times and start 5 bible studies and then we'll let you out.

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Anyone know the significance of the three days and nights Jesus is dead?

by Crazyguy in

in my studies i’ve come to realize that most dying and rising gods such as inanna, jesus and others all were dead three days and nights.

the moon is dead as far as man not being able to see it in the sky three days and nights but many of these gods are not associated with the moon, osiris maybe being the only exception.

have any of you in your research come up with a plausible idea on why there all dead just threes days and three nights?.

Wild_Thing

It has to do with Jewish tradition and they were all Jewish. The Zohar teaches that the soul lingers for 3 days before it leaves the body. It is also Jewish tradition that the body be buried as soon as possible, and no more than 3 days after death. Source

I think the real question is: What is the significance of the number three occurring so often in Jewish tradition?

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J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

by smiddy3 in

when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

no communication systems operating .

Wild_Thing

I don't believe there was ever a "Garden of Eden" with an Adam and Eve, and I don't believe there will ever be a utopian paradise where anybody lives forever, JW or not.

The longer I have been away from the JWs, the more I realize how utterly nonsensical either story is.

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My Dead Mother Called Me This Morning!

by minimus in

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i woke up a little after 5 am this morning and looked at the clock and realized i had more time to sleep so i fell right back asleep.

i had this dream that i was letting my girlfriends dog out of her house and the next scene i was at work and i got a phone call.

the room i was in simply had a table and phone it was very bare.

Wild_Thing

Some people believe that is how people who have died communicate with those still living. Some people believe that dreams are a way for us to communicate our unconscious thoughts to ourselves.

One of my very best friends was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 3 to 6 months to live. I was sick with the flu at the time, and my doctor advised me to stay away from her until I was completely over it. She passed 9 days after she was diagnosed and I never got to see her before she died. I am one of those persons who never dream or never remember dreams, but the one I had a couple of days after she died was so vivid, I swore it was really happening. We were in the same room in her house that we always sat in, drinking like we always did. We talked for a bit and I apologized to her for not getting to see her before she passed. I gave her the hat I had bought for her in real life, but never got to give her that said FUCK CANCER. This happened over 10 years ago, and I still think about it because it was so vivid. I needed her to say her final goodbyes and have closure and that is exactly what it did for me.

Wild_Thing

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