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  Roll Call - Muster Time ...

  by snowbird in

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  2. friends

  who's on the board right now?.

  snowbird checking in.. sylvia.

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  GoingGoingGone

  I'm here too! I guess it's time for the evening crowd to check in, huh?

  GGG
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  Your opinion about Self Injury

  by yumbby in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as a life long self injurer i belong to a couple self help type groups.

  one issue that keeps coming up over and over is everyone's dismay over peoples attitude toward them when they are discovered.

  i try to help the young ones ignore peoples ignorant remarks but its difficult.

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  GoingGoingGone

  Self-injury encompasses more than cutting, too. Some people will burn themselves (with cigarette butts, etc.) Some pick at their skin until it bleeds. All these behaviors are the result of intense emotional pain, and anyone who engages in these behaviors needs help. Since there is such a stigma attached to self-injury, though, many of those who self-injure do so in secret.

  When I was a child, I was close to someone who self-injured by picking at herself. She would pick the smallest imperfection on her skin until it was a huge, open sore, which would begin to heal, only to be picked open again and again and again. I wish I had known at the time that this was a form of self-injury. But I was only a child myself.

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  My friend needs advice re: wife who wants to leave JWs but won't celebrate

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a friend who has started the slow fade.

  recently, his wife talked about leaving, but she is still hung up on worldly holidays.. this is what he says.... one of the concerns my wife has about leaving "the truth" is that she wants our children to grow up with wholesome examples and association with their peers.

  my wife knows jws aren't the only religion to teach their kids to behave morally, but what about the holidays?

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  GoingGoingGone

  I'd look up every holiday, along with the JW reason for not celebrating it, and start from there. Find out why other religions have no problem with celebrating Christmas and Easter and other holidays, despite their alleged "roots." The WT tends to put a huge slant on the information it presents. There is a larger picture, and if your wife can see it and it makes sense to her, maybe celebrating holidays will no longer be such an issue.

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  Watchtower 2008 dumb logic= "Belief in evolution makes you an orphan."

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watch, feb 1 2008 p.4 "if we really are the product of evolution and there is no creator, the human race would in a sense, be an orphan.

  mankind would have no source of superior wisdom to consult- no one to help us solve our problems.

  we would have to rely on human wisdom to avert enviromental disaster, to solve political conflicts, and to guide us through our personal crises.

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  GoingGoingGone

  The basic stupid lying premise to this is; don't worry about the enviroment don't try to make things better GOD will fix everything...

  And it's more than premise, it's JW practice! How many JWs around the world are driving around in their gas-guzzling "service cars" every Saturday?

  How many are busy doing beach cleanups, or working in soup kitchens, or building houses for Habitat for Humanity?

  But the JWs will look down their noses at anyone not "out in service."

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  disfellowshiped jw's relationship

  by vat152 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  hi all i'm new to this so be patient with me please.. i'm not a jw and never will be but my partner is although she was disfelllowshiped some years ago for adultry with someone other than me which jed to a divorce from her husband (who is still a jw), this happpened about 8 years ago, she then went into a relationship which turned violent and abusive, this ended a couple of years ago.. i met her just over 12 months ago and fell head over heals in love with her and i have proposed to her and we are due to be married in july this year, we have a good relationship except for one thing, the bedroom activities.

  she tells me that it makes her feel dirty and cheap and refuses to put her arms around me unless i am covered up with clothes or the quilt, any type of skin contact is a no no, we do occassionaly make love but she hates it.. the thing i want to clear up is this, she is devout about the religion and the wt although she doesn't attend any meetings.

  i am led to believe that if a disfellowshiped jw shows repent they are allowed back into the kingdom hall, i know that she would like to be allowed back into the religion, do you think that she is trying to show repent by not making any skin contact with me whilst we are out of wedlock?.

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  GoingGoingGone

  Welcome vat152!

  Was your fiance raised as a JW? It sounds like she's out in body, but still believes it's "the Truth." If that's the case, she's at risk of returning to the JWs at some point in the future, and that is NOT something you want to happen.

  Do you think she'd come to this site? She needs to understand why the WT is false. There are many other sites she could get information from... www.beyondjw.com is a good one to start with. www.freeminds.com has tons of information. Lots and lots of others. But imho, if you marry her while she still believes the WT is the "truth", you are in for heartache down the line.

  I'm sure others here will have a lot to say, too.

  Good luck to you!

  GGG
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  Your opinion about Self Injury

  by yumbby in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as a life long self injurer i belong to a couple self help type groups.

  one issue that keeps coming up over and over is everyone's dismay over peoples attitude toward them when they are discovered.

  i try to help the young ones ignore peoples ignorant remarks but its difficult.

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  GoingGoingGone

  Some people cannot stand the sight of blood. At all. Seeing someone bleed, or even thinking about someone bleeding, arouses strong feelings of disgust/horror/fear in them. And since no one likes to feel like they are losing control of their emotions, the feelings are directed towards the self-injurer (for making them feel that way.)

  Those of us who do not self-injure can't fathom causing ourself physical pain on purpose. It makes me cringe to think about it. And yet, I have no problem seeing blood. And I have enough knowledge of emotional pain to understand that a person will do whatever possible to make it stop.

  Just guessing.

  GGG
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  2 Special Pioneers 1 Missionary sick with Chronic fatigue- Quit Ministry!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2 special pioneers i knew were at the assembly last year i wanted to know how they were since they have special pioneered for 20 years.

  both got sick and have chronic fatigue.

  they quit pioneering to rest and get better.

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  GoingGoingGone

  Emotional pain can cause a wide variety of physical illnesses, and CFS and Fibromyalgia are just two of them. It is well documented that stress can cause high blood pressure and heart disease, and I've seen so many examples of people getting seriously ill from emotional stress that I don't think it's a coincidence.

  JWs are under a huge amount of stress to do more and many never feel good enough. And they are supposed to be "Jehovah's Happy People!" I think many JWs learn to supress their feelings and emotions so well that it makes them sick.

  And think about the JWs who have figured out that it's all lies, somewhere deep down in their subconscious mind... but they can't bear the reality of losing all their family and friends... supressing that knowledge is unbelievably stressful. I know, I did it for years and years.

  Then when we get out, we have to learn to deal with all the feelings we've shoved out of our minds. That's another whole story.

  GGG
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  How quickly do young JW kids get blood?

  by Open mind in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the recent thread on japanese jw kids under 15 automatically getting transfusions got me thinking about this.. when a young (i'll say less than 10 yrs old) jw kid in your country (assuming it's not japan) ends up in an emergency room bleeding out from an injury, i've always assumed that the er docs are legally obligated to save the child's life in spite of the raving objections of the faithful jw parents.. is this assumption accurate?

  or can raving jw parents successfully slow down the administration of a life-saving blood transfusion?.

  om.

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  GoingGoingGone

  In cases involving minors, one parent or guardian's signature will allow the child to have life-saving blood. In cases where both parents refuse blood for their minor child, court orders are often obtained anyway, and sometimes without the parents' knowledge.

  Some hospitals have a judge on staff, and a court order for a necessary transfusion can be obtained in minutes. Doctors will often try to respect the JW parent's wishes, but they will not sit by and let a child die.

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  Question for you born ins

  by startingover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was growing up as a born in jw, i remember the fear that dfing stirred up within me.

  as a kid, seeing a df'd person was quite a scary thing.

  thinking back about how it was growing up, it occurred to me that at the time, i never realized that a person had to be baptized in order to be df'd.

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  GoingGoingGone

  I never realized that a person had to be baptized in order to be DF'd.

  When I was a kid, unbaptized people in the congregation could be "marked" and treated almost as if they were DF'd. They announced it from the platform just like the announced DF'ing. (Was it called something besides "marked"??? Can't remember...) Happened to a teenager in my cong., he was older than me so I really didn't know him well but he would come to meetings and everyone completely ignored him. I still wonder what happened with him... I sure hope he's out now.

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  well, I just participated in a miracle

  by Hortensia in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i went to good will on the way home from work.

  bought a dining room table i could afford.

  a nice young woman helped me put it in my trunk.

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  GoingGoingGone

  Well, I had a wet paper towel on my rear bumper for a week. Through all my travels it didn't fall off. As far as I know no one was praying for it, either. Wow, maybe I'M a god!

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