Posts by dedpoet

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IMPORTANT: JWS and the CHARITIES COMMISSION

by Dansk in

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friends

dear all (especially those in the uk),.

following on from danny's excellent post here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/128626/1.ashx i have just sent an e-mail to the charities commission.

some time ago i wrote to you about the dangers of jehovah's witnesses and how they don't deserve charity status because far from helping mankind they are a real danger to it.

dedpoet

I got this from the Charities Commission earlier today

Our Ref.: ND/1077961/ G644721/LCD

Dear Mr Spencer

Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain (1077961)

Thank you for your e-mail about the above charity. I am currently considering the issues you have raised and will be in a position to respond substantively to you shortly.

Please contact me if you have any further questions. Please also note the above reference number for your records.

With kind regards

Nick Donaldson

Senior Liaison Officer
Large Charities Division

So they are looking into the issues I raised. I will post any further replies
when I get them

125

Who's Paired Off On This Here Board?

by snowbird in

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friends

let's if i can put them together.. bobbi/para bumble bee/memario exwitless/ldb blondie/irreverent angharad/simon missanna/bigdreaux sweetpea/pubsinger.

did i miss/mismatch anyone?.

sylvia.

We knew each other as jws, and stayed in touch when
I left in 1999. We finally got together, in 2005, and
Linda moved in to live with me at the beginning of 2006,
by which time we'd known each other almost 15 years.

We'd always been close friends, and we got closer when
Linda came to my flat a lot when she was exiting the
watchtower in the summer of 2005 to research the org
and eventually post on here, as she didn't have a pc of
her own at the time.

JCanon/Obves ;-)

lol @ Clam.

2

Lolcat Bibul Translation

by veen in

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friends

http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=main_page

dedpoet

Well, it's differrent

Here's a clickable link

http://lolcatbible.com/Main_Page

15

"Generation" - Just Making It Up?

by metatron in

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friends

i think you have to wonder if the watchtower society has degenerated to the point where they don't.

even bother to research the bilge they print and they just make up whatever gets them by.. what did jesus mean by "this generation"?

anyone can read matt.

dedpoet

It hasn't been in a magazine yet, Metamorphosis. It was brought
out at the watchtower's annual meeting last weekend, and discussed
in this thread

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/143678/1.ashx

Here's what was said

after speaking to someone who went to the annual meeting..somehow "this generation" will solely apply to the annointed........and the annointed could in fact make it past the great tribulation.. the sense is the timespan for this system of things is NOW SHORTER! they also appeared to change the meaning of 3 of jesus illustrations... 1-the seed the falls in the soil 2-the leaven.. the other i cant rememember ....there is NO DATE given, during the "refinement" of light..... only that with this "refinement" we are closer to the end............ and that the Anointed are "this generation"..not mankind in general as was thought...

15

"Generation" - Just Making It Up?

by metatron in

jw
friends

i think you have to wonder if the watchtower society has degenerated to the point where they don't.

even bother to research the bilge they print and they just make up whatever gets them by.. what did jesus mean by "this generation"?

anyone can read matt.

dedpoet

You could say that they've made just about everything they've ever
believed up. This latest proposed change of understanding is merely
another variation on a constantly - changing theme.

I wonder if this is another attempt to prove to their followers what they
have long said - that the "truth" is progressive, and revealed gradually
by jah when he knows his followers are ready for it?

10

This might give the jws problems

by dedpoet in

i just spotted this news item.

i notice that the local jws are already.

trying to squirm out of being excluded - let's hope that they don't .

dedpoet

Paralipomenon said

Would this mean that the witnesses will accept ban fractions, but not a whole ban?

lol

30

exiting the watchtower

by jacethespace in

hi im new to this forum and am currently trying to exite the watchtower.for the past 12 months or more i have stopped going on the ministry.in august last year i stopped going to the meetings but depression kicked in and other symptoms and i returned to the meetings in april.i stopped going to the meetings again in july and did more research to see if this is a cult.but im having all sorts of symptoms.confusion of whats right and wrong, panic attacks when i go out, one minute i hate the watchtower the next i wonder whether this is the truth and wonder if ive been mislead by satan.i dont know who to trust and where to go from here.and none of my family was ever in the watchtower so i think they know somethings going on but they can,t understand what im going through.ive been in the watchtower since 1999 off and on, i finally got baptized in 2005 after what i thought was carefull examination of the truth.and whats worse is the elder i studied with when i came into the " truth" lives right next door to me with his wife, which plays all sorts of guilt trips on me and paranoia.

dedpoet

Hi jace, and welcome to the forum.

You've come to the right place for help and support. Like you,
many of us have exited the watchtower, and gone through the
same feelings that you are experiencing right now.

Two things to remember are that it is quite definitely not the
truth - it's nothing more than a high control cult, and a dangerous
one at that. The other thing is that the feelings you are experiencing
now, though distressing, will pass in time. Most of us felt like you
when we first left. It's all to do with the way we were taught as jws
to see everything outside the organisation as evil and doomed to
destruction.

Keep reading here and other sites, keep posting and, most important,
stay away from the kingdom hall. Resist any attempts by jws to pull
you back in, you will be happy that you did in the long run.

I see that you are from the West Midlands. I'm from Derby, in the East
Midlands myself, so we are kind of neighbours.

Trev

10

This might give the jws problems

by dedpoet in

i just spotted this news item.

i notice that the local jws are already.

trying to squirm out of being excluded - let's hope that they don't .

dedpoet

'We are not an organization into profiteering!'
Someone needs to put them right on that one!

I thought you might spot that comment, Gill (after all I
highlighted it)

Someone should send Hailsham Council the Nov 1st
watchtower.

10

This might give the jws problems

by dedpoet in

i just spotted this news item.

i notice that the local jws are already.

trying to squirm out of being excluded - let's hope that they don't .

dedpoet

I just spotted this news item. I notice that the local jws are already
trying to squirm out of being excluded - let's hope that they don't
succeed, and that other councils adopt this scheme. They'd
scream "persecution" no doubt, but at least it would limit thier
activities (though some of the less zealous ones would be secretly
pleased)

http://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news?articleid=3218045

Cold callers get cold shoulder

COLD callers look set to get the cold shoulder if a new pilot scheme in Hailsham goes ahead. The town council is considering creating a 'No Cold Calling' zone on the Harmers Hay estate.

Both door-to-door salespeople and faith groups could be affected as they would be banned from knocking on doors if the occupant does not know them.

Letters are due to be be sent out in October asking residents their opinion.
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If they agree to the proposal cold callers would then be barred from the estate early next year.

At a council committee meeting on Monday the Mayor, Cllr Nick Ellwood, said trading standards and police wanted to work with the council to put the new scheme in place.

He said: 'Signs will go up saying this is a no cold calling area.

'The scheme has been very successful in other areas and does not cost a lot.

'I believe the no cold calling ban is enforceable.'
Crime prevention officer Dave Smith told the Express elderly people were vulnerable.

He said: 'With back-up from the scheme, elderly people can say no to cold callers.

'It is a multi-agency project aimed at giving householders confidence.'
If the scheme goes ahead, information packs would be sent to residents, outlining their rights.

Signs would also be put up around the estate and detailed stickers given out.Elder Peter Holford, from Hailsham's Jehovah's Witnesses, was keen to point out door-to-door knocking by the group was for ethical reasons.

He said: 'We are not doing it for the purpose of any gain or con but for the future benefit of residents.

'We are not an organisation into profiteering.'
Melanie Russell, national marketing manager for Anglian Windows, said cold calling was not part of the company's business strategy.
She added: 'Our sales people do not sell door-to-door.

'Our visits to customers' homes are appointed in advance from a vast range of marketing campaigns.'

If the scheme is successful it could be extended to other areas in the town.

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IMPORTANT: JWS and the CHARITIES COMMISSION

by Dansk in

jw
friends

dear all (especially those in the uk),.

following on from danny's excellent post here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/128626/1.ashx i have just sent an e-mail to the charities commission.

some time ago i wrote to you about the dangers of jehovah's witnesses and how they don't deserve charity status because far from helping mankind they are a real danger to it.

dedpoet

Slightly off topic, but Enjoying Freedom wrote

Another thought occured to me. It is World Mental Health Day tomorrow. I am sure there is an article discouraging JWs from seeking counselling and support from mental health services.

There have been a few over the years

Awake! 1975 August 22 p.25
Is the turning of people from the clergy to the psychiatrists a healthy phenomenon? No, for it really is a case of jumping from the frying pan into the fire. They are worse off than they were before... That [psychologists and psychiatrists] are not the ones to go to for help when one is depressed and beset with all manner of problems is to be seen from the fact that suicides among them are twice as frequent as among the population in general... what is needed at such times is not worldly psychiatrists who may wholly ignore the change that the truth and God's holy spirit have made in one's life and who know nothing of their power to help one put on a new Christian personality. Rather, what is needed at such times is a mature Christian in whom one has confidence and who is vitally interested in one's welfare and who will not shrink back from administering needed reproof or counsel so that one may get healed.

More here

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/psychiatry.html