ThomasCovenant

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  Should you believe in the trinity brochure

  by Matt_fs in

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  ThomasCovenant

  No, you shouldn't believe in the trinity brochure.

  There are inaccuracies in it.
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  Elders, apostasy and disfellowshipping issue's - thoughts please

  by FeelingFree in

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  2. friends

  ok so... when i was talking to my mil about why i no longer wanted to be a witness she kept trying to convience me that i needed to speak to the elders.

  i said from the word go i didn't feel the need to as my mind was already made up and no one could change it.

  i also said if the elders new all my reasons for leaving they would view me as an apostate and i would get disfellowshipped.

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  ''I also said if the elders knew all my reasons for leaving they would view me as an apostate and I would get disfellowshipped. Her reaction to this was that I was very judgmental and of course they wouldn't think that at all!''

  If she feels so strongly that the elders wouldn't think that, ask her if she'd be willing to legally sign over the deeds to her home to you if they did, in fact, think that.

  Then hold her to it.
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  my first post! (long read sorry in advance)

  by Letts Party in

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  2. beliefs

  long time lurker, first time poster here finally looking to get some things off my chest.

  i've always been a very curious person with tons of questions about everything, and i also care deeply particularly about societal issues like social injustice, racism, and homophobia.

  that, coupled with how boneheaded all the elders in my congregation are (except for one), led me to ask even more questions that led me to find ttatt.. .

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  ThomasCovenant

  Hi.

  Keep posting.

  ''I read 1984 as a high school kid and even prided myself as a fan of this masterpiece. Why did it never occur to me?''

  ''Believing an organization that claims it is the ONLY path to salvation. Everyone else will be destroyed. That’s what it says in our literature, that’s what we’re supposed to believe! ... In a disturbing way, we have essentially the same message the Westboro Baptist church has.''

  I agree.
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  More Elaborate Celebrations International Conv. Atlanta

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  found this video of the entertainment preperation for the delegates in atlanta, u.s. this seems to be professionally done maybe outside sources or probably done by "professional" jw's.

  this is just like christendom or all the other religious organizations that they deem to be from the devil.

  the people seem to be very sincere in there efforts & is much appreciated,.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Perhaps I'm alone in thinking this,

  but I resent the happiness that those 'brothers' are getting from this sort of thing.
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  I'm out- Random thoughts on leaving as I look in the rear view mirror

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is amazing to look back at three years and see the journey that we have taken.

  i went from being an elder to fading completely in the course of those three years.

  along the way i am happy to say that my lovely wife woke up and realized that the truth is nothing but a lie.

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  ThomasCovenant

  I agree pretty much with everything you've observed.

  My advice too is,

  Just stop going.

  No one, apart from maybe immediate family, will be bothered in the slightest, that after a lifetime of attending, you decide to stop.

  Then you try and get on with the remainder of your life.

  I believe that if more people did that, then more would follow.
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

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  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  I've gotten used to the fact that we are one united kingdom. I would be sorry to see that split up.

  Just little things like hearing the weather report from the BBC telling me about the weather in Scotland.

  If Scotland goes the way of a separate independent nation then I don't expect to hear any more about the place than I do about the Republic of Ireland.

  i.e. Nothing.
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  Copy of my DA Letter

  by airborne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my first time posting here, although i have been a visitor to it for around a year.

  after doing a simple google search under "jehovah'switnesses" over a year ago, i found ttat.

  i was deeply unhappy with the congregation and decided to educate myself, and boy what an education i have gotten so far.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Yes, probably the best DA letter I've read on here.

  Congratulations.
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  Jerry Coynes excellent response to JW criticism of his stand against Watchtower blood policy.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/a-jehovahs-witness-criticizes-me-for-criticizing-their-policy-on-blood-transfusions/ apologies for rubbish formatting - posting from phone.

  if someone could make that link clickable i'd be very grateful.

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  I've never understood the whole 'it's safer from a physical/medical stance' point of view that some witnesses take up.

  It doesn't matter whether it was 100% safe or 100% fatal whether you do or don't have a blood transfusion.

  Obedience is all that matters.

  Once, at the Watchtower study, the subject of Uzzah and touching the Ark was being discussed. Brothers ended up character assasinating Uzzah to salve their conundrum that he may have had good intentions in stopping the ark falling.

  All that mattered though was that God said,

  ''Don't touch it or I'll kill you. I'm not interested in whether your heart is in the right place or whether you're a right bastard. I said, don't touch.''

  ''Don't have blood or I'll kill you. I'm not interested in whether it's safer from a medical perspective or not. I said, don't have blood.''
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  My Story: from JW Elder to Born Again Christian to Agnostic

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i first posted here on 3rd june 2008. at the time i was an elder, appointed the previous october, i was 36 and i was a born-in.

  at the time i'd become disillusioned with the society due to the governing body's letter explaining why the book study in private homes was being abolished.

  april 2008 saw me start questioning this decision, privately of course, and this eventually led me to this site, to jwfacts and to many youtube videos, all of which began to errode my faith in the leaders of the organisation.. in july 2008, having discussed my doubts with my wife, i attended the district convention, deciding to give the society one last chance to convince me it was the truth.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Glad to hear your story.

  I remember some of your postings when you were going through your born again phase and I

  have to admit I don't feel comfortable with people who are born agains.

  Welcome to reality (for me at least)
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  JW Pedophile Henricus Landmeter shows no remorse; sentence not suspended

  by blondie in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/father-tells-young-daughter-not-to-worry-about-sexual-abuse-as-jehovah-sees-everything-and-will-sort-it-out-court-hears/story-fnii5yv7-1227038869989?nk=17930d6057db2d68aa89a987482d58a3.

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  ThomasCovenant

  The shame brought on Jehovah's name and his organization is such a bad witness.

  Oh, and the girl? Yes, I forgot about her.