I know my toxic Mom learned a lot from the WT. As time passes and she mellows out, she is less and less like them. And more and more like a loving parent.
Isaac
almost everyone who leaves the watchtower organization acknowledges the fact that the jehovahs witnesses leadership is quite masterful when it comes to using guilt as a means of motivation and coercion.
throughout the watchtower articles, convention talks, and talks given by traveling overseers, there are often statements woven into the material that are designed to evoke feelings of guilt in those who are not robotically falling in line with all organizational programs and group-think.
in addition to the many cliches, buzzwords, and catch-phrases used in watchtower material, the organization also makes comparisons between the field service activities of witnesses in one part of the world to another part of the world.
I know my toxic Mom learned a lot from the WT. As time passes and she mellows out, she is less and less like them. And more and more like a loving parent.
Isaac
i have been thinking about this since yesterday or maybe a little bit longer, but cognac's situation situation really struck me and so many others that are in a situation that seems not only like psychological torture, but where someone almost seems imprisoned against their will through the wts society, it seems to happen in marriages, but not always.. i am a big forensics person, so i was watching some mindless program on television about forensics or something like that (could have even been law & order) and they were trying to find a woman who had "disappeared" and what had actually happened was that a group of people who didn't really know each other, had this silent group who would pick someone up from one point to another, get them away from their abusive spouse/situation, and help them find a job and a place to stay.
it took them at least three weeks to track the person down because each person really didn't know the other, they were just one check off point for another.. and i was thinking, couldn't we create a safe haven for those in those high pressured situations?
i would be willing to help start it, financially support it, etc i am just in the planning, thought process stage, but i would love to have an aresnal of help from others, who could assist people that are trying to break free, start over, and all of that.. would anyone else be interested?
I can advise and endeavor to assist. Actually I have often felt that places like JWD are a virtual underground railroad.
Isaac
does anyone know if an assembly or convention, particulary ones held in stadiums, had to be cancelled because of bad weather?.
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Snow has canceled them here in NYC assembly Halls.
Isaac
is there still enough room for scientists in the wt?.
16. do we hear valueless things being uttered today?
for example, some scientists say that evolutionary theory and scientific discoveries in other fields demonstrate that there is no longer any need to believe in god, that everything can be explained by natural processes.
What a silly statement. Why not use the argument that everything can be explained by natural processes, ones that God put in place? They could still make the case for God. These writers do such grandstanding yet have been wrong so many times.
Isaac
"the truth shall set you free" (cf.
john 8:32) is the kind of sentence that potentially transcends any contextual setting.
as we know only too well, it has been used over and over again in religious propaganda and is very easy to return against it (i.e.
I guess for me it is similar to the expression "knowledge is power". Truth to me is knowledge and understanding of reality. As with many of us the reality of the "truth" of the WT freed me to be an independent individual with time for myself and the things that mattered most to me.
Isaac
here is a scan of the chapter on do you value life as god does?.
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Bloodguilty organizations. What bullcrap. How about WT's blood policy that kills????
Isaac
(thanks a@g for reformatting) .
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--- had a part on service meeting.
Those old men are living in another world, clueless to reality.
Isaac
in paragraph 16 of the first study artice.
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they are being very vague, but it is obvious that they are trying to stir up speculation/excitement.. the entire magazine appears to be about the house to house ministry.
Imagine JWs running around saying that the end is really here. No one would even pay attention. Kind of like the False Religion tract a couple of years ago.
Isaac
imagine sitting thru the watchtower study on a sunday with your 6 year old and 9 year old kids....the topic "fornication" the discussion explains how oral sex and touching of genitals is still fornication...why do kids have to sit thru this??
or the bible reading is about lot having sex with his daughters....this type of thing is not for kids!
and why should kids be forced to sit quietly while someone drones on for 2 hours?.
The Proclaimers book mentions that some branches actually had kid friendly stuff. Rutherford stopped it for the sake of unity! Knorr kept the foolishness going.
Isaac