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Is There a Celebrity that You Resemble ?
by flipper inguys and gals, here we go !
i started a serious thred tonight, now it's time to relax and have some fun!
i think we have all been a bit stressed what with trevor gate and all, so it's friday night, let's loosen up a bit ?
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-How did you envision the FDS and GB did their work?
by Awakened07 inthe weird thing is - i almost can't recall what i once believed about the fds and gb ["faithful and discreet slave" and "governing body"], who they in fact were, and how they came to their conclusions and 'revelations'.. come to think of it, i think that was because i was conditioned to not ever question them, because to question them would be to question the organization, and to question the organization was to question jesus and jehovah.. but i've been trying to 'dig into' my brain to see if i can remember how i as an active jw saw them:.
- i believed them to be inspired, just not in the same 'degree' (?
) as the biblical writers were.
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By the time I got around to thinking about how this worked with the FDS and GB, I really was
fully indoctrinated. Telling me that "they know" they are anointed, I believed it. Telling me
that they were spirit-directed, I thought of it much like a prophet writing a prophecy. He just
lets God's spirit direct the writing.Later, I was able to fill in that most of the writing is done without "prophecy" so it's just
spiritual men doing spiritual writing. If the GB members had something important to add, they
would write it and tell the writing committee make an article out of it.Since Jehovah was directing all the anointed, the FDS outside of Brooklyn didn't have to be
consulted. Jehovah just made sure He guided the ones nearest the typewriters in Brooklyn.
The FDS in Iowa or Kenya would just keep an eye on local matters.I envisioned the GB where they would pontificate using the Bible. Member One would say
what he "understood" from holy spirit, and Member Two would add to that (since they were
all directed by the same spirit). Matters would be discussed until there was a unanimous
decision reached on everything and anything.WELL- imagine as I learned it just ain't so. It really threw me when I learned of the two-thirds
majority vote in the GB. Sure, a judicial committee could go by two out of three, or a body of
elders could use the majority vote, but we learned to discuss things until we could avoid this
majority and get total unity. I couldn't even imagine all the doctrine decided upon without a
need for unanimous agreement.Telling me that these guys made "mistakes" and were not inspired- that was a mistake, too.
I read enough WT articles that said "a prophet is among us" to know that the writings in the
WT were really considered the last word. If things were wrong in the articles I have read, then
how do I know that some major teachings might be wrong, like the end coming before the
1914 generation passed away. That was "proven" to me. Oh my god, there's an error.
What should I do? I will keep my mouth shut until I know what to do, afterall, I was just appointed
an elder in 1995 because I know how to promote WT propaganda.That's my story, and I am sticking to it
Profound.
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Your most hated Kingdom Songs ever...
by B_Deserter inwe all know that skilled songwriters the brothers are not, so what are your most hated kingdom songs?
the ones that made you cringe when you saw them listed on the km or watchtower?
mine?.
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My 16-year-old daughter, who has not been to a meeting in over 5 years, quickly responded, "#113 "We're Jehovah's Witnesses" when I asked this question to the family.
I'm not sure if she's correct about the song number,. but she started singing it to me almost word for-word.
*barf*
I always hated that one too.
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Does the news still scare anyone else?
by YoungAmerican ini was just wondering how many of you still get a quezy feeling in your stomach after hearing someone on the news use the phrase "peace and security" or after reports on the news of all the large earthquakes that have been reported this last week or so?
i know we can all rationalize that there are always earthquakes and wars etc.... but i swear, no matter how hard i try to shake the sick feeling in my stomach when i hear all this stuff i can't seem to do it.
i still have visions in my head of what armagedon will be like from all the pictures i grew up seeing in the publications, talk about scarred for life.
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I still second guess myself all the time with the "what if it IS true" scenerio
I do this too. Almost a panic type of feeling.
However, I do find it getting easier to put those feelings aside and be more logical about it, the longer I'm out.
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What generation witness are you?
by Bonnie_Clyde ini'm a 4th generation witness.
however, i have jw cousins with grown grandchildren (that makes 6 generations), and two of them are married--all in the "truth.
" if they have kids, they will be 7th generation.
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3rd...and thankfully managed to get my 6 kids out with me.
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Affidavit for a court custody battle with a JW mom/Non JW dad
by Billzfan23 inwhat kind of things would you put in an affidavit to the court for a custody hearing - list them out in this thread for me so that i can disperse each point across multiple pages, making a strong case.
i will start:.
blood transfusions: - jw children are refused blood transfusions that could save their lives.. how about school sports, flag salute, military service, discouraging college education, keeping "seperate from the world", armageddon teachings, etc.. help we fill in a little wordy description and elaborate on each point in this post - it would be very much appreciated!.
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I would leave the words "Jehovah's Witnesses" out all together and word it more along the lines of: "Mrs. X seems to believe that..." During our marriage Mrs. X taught/believed/would not allow the children to.../had the children engaging in..." and provide examples (not too many).
I (df'd) got sole custody of our son with jw dad. This is very difficult in BC where custody is assumed to be 50/50 unless you can prove that this is not in the best interest of the child.
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The most powerful thing about apostate literature is...
by slimboyfat in...that is drives a wedge between you and other witnesses as soon as you read it.
there is fear of discussing it openly, and even if you are wanting to try to argue against apostate ideas there is simply no outlet for such open discussions.
you are left guessing what other witnesses know, and how much apostate information they have been exposed too.
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... it's true!
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Anyone Else from Canada?
by Miss 8572 ini'm really intrigued by that fact that i may know some of you and yet not know that i know you.
i just want to know how many people from canada are here.
if you don't mind and don't care about posting your province (cause i'm too timid to) we could all get an idea of just how many canucks are really out there.
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Kelowna, BC, here
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Why do KH's not have any windows?
by jibberish inwhat is the real reason why kingdum halls don't have windows?
to people on the outside looking in that is just too wierd and very cult like like they have something to hide.
wasn't in the 80's when they started to build them without windows?
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I've been to a lot of Kingdom Halls...only 1 had windows.
Maybe it has something to do with building codes in certain area s as to whether they put windows in or not?