with all the tools and information at the disposal of newly awakened ones, it's still no easy task coming to terms with the magnitude of it all.
it still takes a lot of gut-wrenching time and effort to get to the point where you are sure you made the right decision to leave.. .
how did you long-timers (old-timers, respectfully) manage it without crisis of conscience, christian freedom, jwn, jwfacts, freeminds, access to thousands of fellow survivors with stories just like yours?.
Morning Phizzy
In the end though, the final nail in the coffin was realising that 1914 was simply not in the Bible, and no Elder being prepared to come and defend the doctrine to me.
Blimey, the amount of times I've asked to have that explained to me. JWs actually believe they KNOW the maths but have forgotten it, lol. ''I'll get back to you'' (they never do). You would think that as it was/is a MAJOR doctrine they'd know it inside out.
hello - i am new here .. just joined a couple of days ago, and have enjoyed the bit of lurking that i have done.
a breif history, i was raised as a jw, was active until i was 36, and was a regular pioneer for 7 years and a ministerial servant for 5 years, and was one when i left.
my reasons for leaving are not important at this point, but i have spent the last year or so researching the flood and more extensively the theory of evolution.. i have finally decided to broach the topic with my mother since after all this time, the last of my jw friends and my brother and sister have all decided that they should shun me now, and i want to make a last ditch effort to convey to my mother that i didn't leave the organization so i could do lines of coke off a cheap hooker, but because i actually believe that this is not the truth.. i'd love some feedback on the email and what you think the possibility of it actually breaking through the "permafrost" created by the society.
What Nugget said. It never fails to amaze me how JWs totally trust the WT's 'research' yet easily dismiss the research of professionals. I'd be interested to read your Mum's response (if you get one). Sadly 'evolution' is something too easily dismissed by JWs as it's 'against God'. Once they have to 'think' about evolution, then too many other things would need to be addressed (eg., timelines) Welcome darthweef
You know what maths is..? To reach an answer, we also have to show how we reach that answer.
for me, the disclosure of ufo's as being real is just matter of time.
it's not a matter of any mayan calendar or galactic alignment.
it's simply the eventual outcome of increasing and increasingly bold ufo observations.
I think they would exploit/twist (to fit an agenda) Acts 2v19 - ''And I will show wonders in the heavens above...''
if you're a dunderhead on neo-babylonian history (like me) you've probably remained totally clueless whenever the subject of the chronology leading to back 607 b.c.
since i had nothing better to do today, i decided to finally take the time it takes to understand why dub chronology on that date is wrong.
this piece of information alone should give you a clue about how bored i am!.
I never get bored of reading these. It's quite astounding how the R&F just believe incorrect maths, lol..
after all, this unidentified freind of caleb gives him a toy, which calebs mom finds objectionable , shouldn`t she just have said to caleb ,give it back to your freind ?
and not dump it in the trash can ?
what sort of a message does that send to caleb (or any other children who watch this video ) calebs mom should have acknowledged that his freind gave him a present, and it should be appreciated , not to disrespectfully throw it away in the trash can with no thought to the giver of the present.. smiddy.
Yes, I responded as such on a previous thread. In addition, I also think JWs are taught that the feelings of 'Worldly' peeps are irrelevent/don't matter.
i've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!
" - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.
a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.
Cheers Cedars ...
It does make me wonder why the WT would release such an 'article' at this time. How much are they charging for this wonderful pece of cinematic excellence? Do we see an Oscar nomination in the offing? Lol. ''And nominations for best animated short film are...''
i've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!
" - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.
a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.
So let me get this right - it's ok for the WT to 'create' fictional wizards (to scare children)..?
Is this released in England/UK too?
I think Caleb's friend has learned a valuable lesson - JWs are ungrateful. Imagine if the scenario was reversed. Caleb gave his friend something that he spent his own money on to please his friend, and the friend just discarded it. Poor Caleb would be hurt, but he'd also learn that 'Worldly' people are thoughtless etc.
today's study article, "do not look at the things behind," from the 3/15/12 study edition, which was reviewed by blondie in her thread, has a footnote on paragraph 12.. the original-language word here translated refuse.
also meant what is thrown to the dogs,.
dung, excrement.
"talk about double standards ... they refuse to sing hymns glorifying God becasue they were written or composed by "worldlies" but they offer up a study theme written by a war criminal"
i was thinking about mormons .
(they have a channel on youtube) and how other religions seem to be moving with the times, while jw's are still stuck on going door to door witnessing, street corner (while people are trying to get to work, not trying to be bothered with someone giving them a magazine about religion) passing out magazines, doing telephone witnessing, and letter writing.. most people dont even read magazines anymore (most people dont even have magazines subscriptions anymore) the majority of people are on the internet (or on their cell phones texting and chatting) on these websites (ex: facebook, twitter, youtube, etc).
if the message is so urgent, lifesaving, and life altering, why wont the watchtower 'get with times' sort of speak.
Sorry if this is old news, but only just spotted this...
