Not to get off topic but, "It said he was not an employee, acted as "little more than a
tidier-upper" after church gatherings and had no responsibility at all
for child welfare, its lawyers argued."-- a ms is 'tidier-upper'? is that what they think of their 'servants'? I wonder how current ms' feel about this label?
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Jehovah's Witnesses face £1m legal bill after young girl was sexually abused by one of its members
by Researchedandenlightened inhopefully more financial trouble for them to come in uk !!.
jehovah's witnesses face £1m legal bill after young girl was sexually abused by one of its membersread more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-face-1m-legal-bill-after-young-girl-was-sexually-abused-by-one-of-its-members/story-29491614-detail/story.html#ixzz4dqkbhccq follow us: @leicester_merc on twitter | leicestermercury on facebookread more at http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-face-1m-legal-bill-after-young-girl-was-sexually-abused-by-one-of-its-members/story-29491614-detail/story.html#hel6rjg74wdprrdh.99.
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carla
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Happy Birthday smiddy
by smiddy inand a happy birthday to anybody else who born on the 5/7 month.
smiddy.
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carla
A belated Happy Birthday! hope you had some fun
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Jesus Knows the Day & Hour Now?
by KillerJones ini was skimming the july 2016 wt study article and came across a paragraph indicating that, despite scriptural evidence, the governing body indeed feels that god's son now knows the exact day and hour of armageddon.
is this 'new light'?
from the second study article, page 14, pgh 4:.
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carla
Has anybody had a conversation with a r & f about this?
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For My Kids
by myjourney ini haven't been on here much, but every so often i try and keep up with the discussions.
i'm sure this topic has been talked about before, so my apologies in advance if i'm repeating.. a little about me.... i'm a non baptized jw married to a devout jw.
both my husband and i were raised in the organization.
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carla
It has been my experience that jw's do not/will not consider a "neutral third party". Why would they? everybody else is part of satan's world and have no love for jah. They will however consider going to the elders with all your personal business if they find it necessary. (which naturally makes it way around the cong)
I hate to say it but jw's are not the most trustworthy people, even if the husband agrees to not preach or to allow certain things they will make sure to guilt the kids as much as possible about it. They will take every advantage they can to sneak in jw doctrine and crazy nonsense. Don't forget the doom and gloom and the glee over the news with bombings and other world events. Make sure to point out on a regular basis all the wonderful things humans are doing to help each other everyday. Help them to see the world without the blackened glasses of the jw world.
I am not/never been a jw, in fact I have been opposed since my spouse joined up from the beginning. I do not get the official 'apostate' label never having been a jw to begin with. But I can tell you I sure deserve that label! When mine joined up and my kids were young I did everything I could to make sure he could not preach at them. Teach your kids critical thinking skills, educate them about the jw organization including the flip flops, sexual abuses, shunning, no blood, history and so on. No need to lie about anything, these are all facts. I never allowed my kids to step foot in a kh. Yes, it was a rather hellish time when this all went down. Years later we are still together, enjoy each others company and do many things together. I have given up trying to discuss anything jw and realize he must come to the truth about the truth on his own.
If the jw's had any truth they would not care about scrutiny, only people who have something to hide don't want you looking into them too closely.
We always did and still do holidays, my kids got birthday cakes & parties, Christmas, Easter and Halloween. It is a shame that dad is not in the picture for these events both figuratively and literal.
Today my kids are grown and out of the house. They have become Christians (no, I do not believe jw's are Christian) and pray their dad will wake up one day. They still love their dad as does their mom.
If your going through hell keep going! You will get out the other side and it is possible to bring the family intact. Things will get rough but they can get better.
Wishing you all the best.
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For My Kids
by myjourney ini haven't been on here much, but every so often i try and keep up with the discussions.
i'm sure this topic has been talked about before, so my apologies in advance if i'm repeating.. a little about me.... i'm a non baptized jw married to a devout jw.
both my husband and i were raised in the organization.
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carla
You can choose to protect your children, or not. Will it be hell for you to do so? Quite probable. That's your job, to protect your kids physically, mentally and spiritually.
It is quite possible to get the kids out now and remain married. The marriage will go through hell for quite awhile but if there is love there it can get better eventually.
You could try and keep it together and therefore you will have more control in their daily lives. Or should you separate every other weekend will be filled with jw activities anyway. Weigh all your options and have all your ducks in a row before you do anything. That would include checking into jw custody issues, an attorney who is familiar with jw issues, finances, etc...etc...
Give your kids a chance at a normal life and they will thank you someday for it. Keep them in the cult and one day you may be the one posting here bemoaning the fact that they are shunning YOU the apostate or spiritually weak one.
I wish you well no matter what you do even if it is nothing it will be difficult to live with.
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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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carla
I wish this case would go national!
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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!
by slimboyfat ini know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.
at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.
in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.
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carla
Please check out http://www.mormoncurtain.com/
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Bethel "Vow of Poverty" documents scanned.
by What-A-Coincidence invow of poverty scanned from 2002 documents.
i believe these are the latest ones unless someone has a newer one.
i posted these in another thread but i thought it deserved its own.. ocrd with 98% accuracy.... initial cover page 1 of 4. vow of obedience and povertyto the.
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carla
Might be off topic a bit, my apologies, I am wondering about the use of the word 'order'. I don't remember hearing this used in reference to jw's. Reminds me of the Catholic hierarchy & many different 'orders'. What do r & f think of this?
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Ever-changing teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses - probably the most comprehensive compendium about Watchtower doctrinal changes
by WTS Archive intwo days ago a new book was released for download, called "ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses".
it was originally written by a polish jw scholar (who never was a jw himself) włodzimierz bednarski, with a help from szymon matusiak, who was a jw and an elder, and is a result of years of labourious work to compile quotes regarding every single doctrine the book describes.
it covers the most important changes in years 1879—2015.
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carla
Thank you! WTS Archive has quite a few things I would like to check out when my jw is not around.
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Do not waste your time writing letters to the Governing Body. (My story)
by Iamallcool inyears ago, my first job was at the copy center just like kinkos (now fed ex) there was ex jw family that i have met in the kh, but they did not attend the meetings regularly, just rarely probably just for social reasons, i guess.
one of the unbaptized family members worked with me at the copy center.
he tried to get me to read an apostate book, i refused to read one word of it, then one day he decided to copy the book by writing on many pieces of paper, what did i do?
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carla
This non jw has in fact written to NY and I can tell you that there were results. I was having a few issues with some of the local jw's and the elders had to take care of the problem. Went around the k-hell like wildfire I heard.
Write the letters, even if it you get no response at least you will feel better. I suggest sending a copy of the letter to a journalist as well. If we keep asking the press to cover the story eventually they do. Not like Scientology but why not? why shouldn't the wt be held to task as well? one day.......